Looking for company history info regarding serial numbers, mfg dates etc for Thomas Russel and son, watchmakers of liverpool, England.
How can I access serial numbers for Thomas Russell watches,Liverpool?
history of thomas russell watchmakers of liverpool
The following is from the WEB.
Thomas Russell is first listed as a watch manufacturer in 1848 and he had premises at 20 Slater Street, Liverpool. At a later date, he moved to 30 Slater Street where the ‘Russell Time O’Day watches’ were manufactured. About 1859, Thomas appears to have handed over the control of the company to Thomas Robert Russell and Alfred Holgate Russell, and the firm changed it’s name to Thomas Russell and Son. By 1877 the company moved premises to Church Street, Liverpool. The partnership between Thomas Robert and Alfred ended in 1870. Thomas Russell & Son, after Queen Victoria’s death, signed their watches ‘Makers to Queen Victoria’ even though officially the warrant had ceased with the Queens death. This was tolerated for a time before it was removed from their watches.. Thomas Robert continued as the proprietor of the Russell Watch and Chronometer Manufactory at Cathedral Works, 18 Church Street, Liverpool with addresses in Piccadilly, London and Toronto, Canada. This became Russell’s Limited in 1894. From this date it seems that they continued as retail jewellers with branches in Liverpool and, by the early 1900’s, Manchester and Llandudno. Alfred Russell continued the company of Thomas Russell and Son (Alfred Russell & Co). This company was listed in 1880 as ‘watch and chronometer manufacturers and machine made keyless lever and jewellery merchants by appointment to Her majesty the Queen and HRM the Duke of Edinburgh and the Admiralty’. In 1881, they became importers of Swiss watches, music boxes etc. Eventually, the firm was converted to a limited company and by 1938 had become Thomas Russell & Son Watch Co Ltd.
Victoria died in 1901, so if your watch has this inscription on the movement, it was probably post 1901.
Check the hallmarks, further info can be found on the WEB. Likely to be the Chester assay office, sword with 3 sheaves on a shield. I have my Grandfathers full hunter watch from his retirement in 1938 and it is marked maker to Victoria. It is also 22 carrot gold which not many are. 2 Experts have told me this model was designed for officers in the 1914/18 war and did not have a crystal so it would not get broken. Hallmarked for 1938 which seems a bit late, and it has a crystal, which may be a retro fit, where they marked as they were sold ? Maybe old stock, I don't know. I do know they can fetch a price, I have seen this type pushing £4000 at auction, but that was an 1898 watch. Not much else to add, I am searching for answers as well.
49428 any value
I have a Thomas Russell Half Hunter watch. Movement is marked as 10 jewel with the engraving Thos.Russell & Son Liverpool and numbered 21482.
The case is engraved SUPREME -U.S.A- , and numbered 2818851. It is not hallmarked as I can see, though there are some very fine engravings in the rim which are not hall marks but are too difficult to see but look like wording. The inner back cover is marked "This case guaranteed to wear 10 years" and numbered the same.
I would love to know more about it esp. date etc.
I wish to find out about a pocket watch made by thomas russell and son serial number 445 849 as to the year it was made and estimated value
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