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Discuss pilgrimwb's answer to: If I pray to the G_d of Abraham, does Christ hear ?

If you are Jewish (as your word "G_d" implies), your question is invalid.

If you are a believer in the Divine Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), then it's probably safe to assume that the Father permits the Son to read his mail.

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MikeC

pilgrimwb Believe me, I am not Jewish, I don't even know if I am kosher.

jameslee102447 Thinks this answer is Helpful:

What pilgrimwb is pointing out is your contradiction to what you believe which I believe now that you didn’t even know. When you use G_D you are conveying the Jewish Faith of a belief in no name of God and is not said or written. Yet on the other side you say that Jesus Christ is the name of God. Which I have been saying is not the name of the G_D of Abraham and is also accepted by Christian doctrine. I understand you seem to be steadfast in believing that Jesus Christ is the name of God so no need to reply, but keep and open mind. Some day you may see it differently.

FYI....The reason you will see me use G-d is out of respect to Yechiel, who is Jewish. I mix 'em up also. PS: Jameslee, I don't know if you know it or not, but Yechiel's dear and loving wife is a Catholic! Imagine that!

MikeC

jameslee My problem, not yours, I don't care about accepted Christian doctrine. It depends on what Christian you are talking to and by what doctrine they accept. Those words mean very little to me. By the way, I know for a fact that the Jewish faith believe in the G_d of Abraham. By using there way of writing G_d, not only for the respect of Jewish faith but there is no confusion on what G_d I am talking about. There is a million god's out there that have nothing to do with to G_d of Abraham. The Jewish G_d is my G_d, if people think G_d just disappeared after the death of Jesus, I think they are very foolish. I know the importance of Jesus, and I know who he is, one with the spirit of the G_d of Abraham, that is exactly who he is to me. The Jewish faith may not like what I say and the Christian faith may not like what I say. Guess what, I guess it is all in how you perceive things. If Christian doctrine was right, Christians all over the globe would have been united hundreds of years ago. So much for Christian doctrine. NJOY is right, ego is always in the way. Every, Groundless, Oservance of our own importance without compassion for others.

jameslee102447 Thinks this answer is Helpful:

Every Christian has there own fellowship and uses the same Christian doctrine, the one in the bible. Each Christian religion does implement their own perception or spin and that is the reason for different fellowships. The one you fellow is the one you are in, and if you do not accept the way they teach the doctrine it is time to find one you can accept.

And most certainly the Jewish Faith believes in the God of Abraham or there would not be a Jewish Faith or a Christian Faith. There is no confusion between what God G_d you are speaking or there is only one God. Most assuredly God did not disappear after the death of Jesus the Christ, can’t even imagine some one believing that.

You are correct; it is all in how you perceive things. The more you read and study spiritual substance such as the bible the closer one can get to real knowledge, and away from just mere perception. To know is better then to perceive. But true perception is all we can hope for until we are all transformed to a place were we know.

As for the Christian doctrine being right or wrong and would have united us hundreds of years ago if it was right, I would say that this is part of our curriculum, part of our program of study that will unite us. I do find it strange to hear a Christian say these things about Christian doctrine.

MikeC

Jameslee I hope I did not offend you. The reason I said God disappearing, there are so many that have no tolerance for anyone who does not understand or believe in the name of Jesus.

They vilify them and are outraged by people that say they don't believe in Jesus. They our on this web. To me when people pray for help or for what ever, we should not be judgemental in where they are going to land up after death. I have very little tolerance for that. I will not condone or give credit to anyone that tell's me a Jew cannot get to heaven because they believe in the G_d of Abraham and not in Jesus. God does not hear there prayers, if they don't pray to Jesus. That was the reason for that snide remark. It was also what prompted me to make the original question. (does Christ hear ?) I believe in God doing his work, the judging department is not our's to do. I think you already know my thoughts of God and Jesus.

GBY MikeC

jameslee102447 Thinks this answer is Helpful:

No that did not offend me in the least. The only thing that could be considered offensive was the disparaging marks against your own faith, Christian doctrine, the New Testament.

Jameslee, I think MikeC is simply doing his own thinking outloud here on this thread where he feels safe in doing so. I can't fault MikeC or anyone for sharing their thoughts with us. We are among friends here and we are siblings. To me, there could be no Christ without God. God gave us The Christ (Indwelling).He chose Jesus to BE The Christ, so we could better identify with HIM>

It is those whose thinking dwells on the man Jesus and takes his words so literally that they forget it was The Christ speaking and not merely the man named Jesus.

They have (in my opinion) been so programmed to pray to Jesus; acknowledge Jesus; seperate Jesus from God; etc etc that they have trouble when told to concentrate on The Christ instead. my 2cents worth...for whatever it's worth...lol