Discuss MikeC's answer to: Best Religion

The question of going to heaven or hell in my opinion is very easy to answer. I find it strange that anyone can ask, but when they do ask, who are they asking? I would think it to be a personal question for their inner self, rather a believer or not, for no one in this temporal world would know. When thinking within religious circles it would seem as the question is there but everyone is waiting for confirmation while believing that those within their circle will and those outside will not. But the truth as I see it is; that only you and the Lord know and if you are following the signpost He has given you then no contest, and if you are not following the signs given you then once again not contest. But we all know if we are going to heaven or if we are going away from heaven. We know the answer like we know if we are going to St Louis or Chicago, by following the signpost. And if we still question, then we are not. So the real question should be; what treasures are you storing up for yourself in heaven, not out of greed but out of Joy.

God Bless 

Dear Njoy; and friends;

G-d is all or nothing; however, within that perimeter, there is the Noahide Covenant, where the Gentile can come to Him, as you see Him, not as some person insists, based on his incomplete understanding of Him. No one knows all about the Infinite, so is it not presumptuous to say, "I have the answer!"?

You are doing what is required of all of His children, trying to understand, know and work out what and where you are. GBY

Shalom;

Yechiel

Many people are asking about the Jews as God's people. Are the Jews God's people today?

For over three years the gospel went throughout Jerusalem and Judea before it went to the Gentiles. The three thousand added to the church on the day of Pentecost were Jews

At the trial of Jesus the Jews called for the blood of Jesus to be on them and their children. Matt. 27:25. Still Jesus sent His disciples (Jews themselves) to preach to the Jews, and they did until the Romans destroyed their nation in 70 AD.The Jews need Jesus just as we do: "there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12.

Paul loved his people and prayed for them. "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel (The Jews) is, that they might be saved. For I bear them (The Jews) record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they (The Jews) being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." Rom. 10:1-4.

Paul loved the Jews  and earnestly wanted them to be saved.Jesus told us to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every kindred nation tongue and people. The Jews as a people, certainly fall into that broad category. Christians should seek to give the gospel to the Jews as well as anyone else. Indeed, some of the Jews are helping to take the gospel of Jesus Christ to their own people today.

Paul was a Jew who became a follower of Christ and he worked for the salvation of the Jews all through his ministry, even though he was the apostle to the Gentiles.

In verse 7 he says "Israel (The JEWS) has not obtained what it seeks." Then in verses 19-22 where he is talking about us Gentiles being grafted into their olive tree, he says: "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.

Because of unbelief the (JEWS) were broken off, and you (GENTILES) stand by faith. For if God did not spare the natural branches (JEWS) , He may not spare you (GENTILES) either.

Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those (JEWS) who fell severity; but toward you,(GENTILES)  goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off."


The words "did not spare" let us know that as a nation he considered the Jews no longer God's people.

As individuals they can still have salvation through Jesus Christ as individuals they are no different from anyone else. As a nation, too, they are no different: all need Jesus.


 Now consider Galatians 3:29. "And if you are Christ's then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." All the promises of scripture are for God's people.

Today Christians are that people if they "continue in His (God's) goodness." Rom. 11:22 .

As individuals, Jews have as much chance for salvation in Jesus Christ as any Gentile. When Paul started his ministry, the Christian church was made up largely of Jews. There were many Jews who believed and came to Christ.

Peter said to the Jewish leaders: "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12  Jew or Gentile, it makes no difference, we are all saved through Jesus Christ. There are many Jewish Christians today.

Dear Pastor Paul Green:

You stated; >>> As individuals, Jews have as much chance for salvation in Jesus Christ as any Gentile. When Paul started his ministry, the Christian church was made up largely of Jews. There were many Jews who believed and came to Christ.<<<

Wrong! Any Jew who accepts Jesus, rejects his SAlvation. Many reasons for this, among them the Theology and human sacrifice. G-d told us what we can and cannot accept, and Christianity has several items He forbids us. For the Nations, according to Jesus, there is the 7 Laws of Noah (Matt. 19:16-19)

So please be aware of these facts, and help your fellow Christians to understand that it is for their benefit that they concentrate on their salvation, not coerce someone else to accept their version.

Thank you and GBY.

Shalom;

Yechiel

All Christians must understand what happened to us Jews At Sinai. Salvation is of the Jews. G-d gave us the adherence to His eternal Torah, which He vowed shall never be removed still stands,  We Jews are G-d's chosen. G-d said for each Jew then and now to put what we have-His eternal Torah- into action. We vowed to G-d  At Sinai we would bring  you Gentiles to salvation through His eternal Torah.   When the last gentile accepts His eternal Torah from us Jews,  then and only then will the Messiah  will return.

He told us Salvation is of the Jews.You must accept  His eternal Torah through us then the Messiah will return.

Shalom;
Yochanan ben Beroka

All the same.  Changing the name changes nothing. 

Yechiel you being a Jew know as well as I do, G-d gave us the adherence to His eternal Torah, which He vowed shall never be removed still stands. We vowed to G-d  At Sinai we would bring  ALL Gentiles to salvation through His eternal Torah.ALL gentiles will accept His Torah through us, and that includes jameslee.

Yechiel do you agree with that or are you a trader?

Shalom;
Yochanan ben Beroka

Dear B;

I answered your question on the next page.

Shalom;

Yechiel

By definition, the mystery of God cannot be dragged down from heaven by brain power, or by human righteousness, or merit of any kind. Rather, it must be given of God through revelation. Thankfully, He is ever seeking to do this through the Holy Spirit. Fundamental to this purpose is that He desires to bring His people to the place where they will lose their right to their lives into His hands. If we will, then we will not only find true life in Christ, but we will find CHRIST HIMSELF. We will find LIGHT and TRUTH. And we will be set free.

All of this goes back to the fact that the great mystery of God is CHRIST HIMSELF – indeed, it is Christ in us, the hope of glory. But no longer is this a hidden mystery. It is a revealed one. The entire gospel and preaching of Truth stands upon the foundation that God has chosen to reveal Himself – not only TO people, but IN people. Christ is the means by which God has done this.

Yochanan     You said  " He told us Salvation is of the Jews.You must accept  His eternal Torah through us then the Messiah will return. "      

How could this be ?     To a Jew, the Messiah was never here in the first place.      To return  ?    Are you sure you are a Jew ?