Which religion should I convert to?
Mike: This is where the virgin birth comes in. A part of God, in a sense, his own DNA a part of himself. (God has no matter, unless he wills it. ) Born of a woman. Not to make everyone fear him, what kind of a choice would that be ? But to show us his love for us without giving himself away.
FR: Agreed in that "God" Pure Consciousness exists beyond FORM and matter, but can also will ITs SELF to manifest as matter. Divine Consciousness remains Constant whether THAT ONE is manifest or not. One can think of Steam and Water both being H2O.
As far as the "virgin" birth however... that word takes on different meanings depending on how it is used.... in its mundane dualistic state OR in its Divine non-dual state.
The mundane meaning of virgin means untouched in the PHYSICAL sense. However... when used in its non-dual spiritual context it means untouched by FEAR...fear being that which creates a sense of separation from the WHOLE, from "God", which is ALL Pervasive.
Mary, Jesus' mother was a SPIRITUAL Virgin... she would have herself existed in the non-dual Christ State.. which is totally free of fear. Sin cannot enter this most divine state.
Mary could have had 10 children, she could have played the mundane role of a prostitute IF she so chose... and STILL she would have been a TRUE spiritual virgin. Why: Because such a one KNOWS that "God" is the ONLY ONE here. Just as Jesus IS "God"... we are ALL "God"... most simply have forgotten this *ultimate* Truth.
Sin cannot touch one who has realized fully the Christ State for themselves... the ultimate gift of Grace, more precious than even heaven itself, because they KNOW they are NOT the "DOer" of any actions... just as a dreamer never actually DOES anything... their head never leaves the pillow.
IF we dream we robbed a bank do we turn ourselves in once we WAKE UP?
Ultimately speaking..... There is no bank, no money... there is ONLY "God" playing all these roles ... Witness to ITs own Divine Play. Until grace strikes though... the awakening power of "God"... we will THINK we are the DOer, and the way we chose to live our lives will have a dramatic effect on how we, to say, our minds experience life. Those who constantly chose LOVE... have a divine life, while those who chose fear will suffer that choice. The ultimate Truth is... there is no death. We are THAT which has never been born and will never die. To Know one's True SELF is to realize that "God" IS, ultimately speaking, the only ONE here. Dream and Dreamer are ONE and the same. We are the Cause and also the Effect.
It takes Grace to even want to seek this Grace. This is how "God" plays a cosmic game of Hide and Seek... with "His" own Divine SELF.
Bottom line: "God" is able to have "His" CAKE and eat it too.
~ Peace ~
samuside wrote, Jesus received His DNA strand from Mary for His physical body.
YOU FOOL. Jesus didn't receive anything from Mary. No Blood, No DNA. Nothing.
What you are saying is Jesus DNA was mixed with Marys human DNA!! Which is a LIE!! If that was the case Jesus would be half God and half human DNA.
Jesus was placed in the womb of Mary by the Holy Spirit. In Marys womb Jesus didn't receive ANYTHING human from Mary, No Blood No DNA. Nothing. Jesus was God in the flesh, The Word Of God manifested in the flesh from the Holy Spirit through the womb of Mary. Untouched by anything human.
I challenge you to show anywhere in scripture where Jesus received His DNA from Mary!!!
It is very clear that Jesus was born from The Divine: the male genome includes an X chromosome and a Y chromosome. The female genome requires two X chromosomes. Children born with YY chromosomes suffer Down's Syndrome, which renders them sterile and severely mentally retarded.
It would not be difficult for God to transform one of Mary's X chromosomes to a Y chromosome, then cause the two to fertilize normally. It would have been impossible for medical science in that day to envision how to cause genes to behave in such a manner, but as God is the design engineer -- from the moment creation began -- then it would not be difficult for Him to arrange this miracle as He has arranged many millions of others.
What a pity that corrupt Muslims deny that God can do miracles. Of course, their god has never done miracles because Muslims worship an idol, but that does not hold true for us, as we worship the God who created the universe, and Muslims cannot for fear of breaking with other tyrant Muslims.
There is no question whatsoever that Christ is Who He proved that He Is. And there is no question why Muslims persecute Christians because the children of belial must always hate the true heirs of God.
Anon ... you cannot prove Jesus didn't receive any chromosomes from Mary, the Logic is that He did; for without it He would not have the birthright to David's throne which was in Mary's blood line through Heli her father. The Holy Spirit (God) took from Mary to form His Son in her womb.
It's a proven fact. From the time of conception to the time of birth not ONE SINGLE DROP OF BLOOD ever passes from mother to child.
Marys DNA was not corrupt. The bloodline to which Christ was born their bloodline was not corrupt.
Then you received your DNA strand from a fallen angle.
samuside Anon ... you cannot prove Jesus didn't receive any chromosomes from Mary, the Logic is that He did
I don't go by logic, "deceived one" I go by FAITH in Gods word. Faith is that He didn't.