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Which religion should I convert to?

MikeC said: "Just as many people do not believe that the flood ever happened or Adam and Eve. Because people do not believe in certain things does not mean that those things did not exist."

By the same token, just because people believe something doesn't mean it ever actually happened. In fact, the overwhelming evidence says such things never happened at all.

 

The question was: what religion should you convert to? My answer is: None.

 

Why do you need to convert to any religion? That's the real question here. Is it out of fear? Fear of death? Primitive fear of offending some wrathful deity?

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Yechielshlipshon Thinks this answer is Helpful:

 

Dear Friends;

Zen Satanest made a good point, and this post, which I composed before I knew of him, fits in.

>>> Dear Friends;

Something came together, just now, and I have to share this with you.

The below website deals with how a Rabbi dealt with his own medical anouncement from his doctor, that he had a terminal disease. I was so impressed with it that I had to share it with Claire.

She then shared something with me that no one else knew, until now. I am doing so with her permission.

When she still lived in Massachusettes, a few years ago, she was two months behind in her mortage payments. She worked almost 7/24 to raise the money, but could not get the amount together.

At this time, she was going to prayer meetings on Friday nights, a friend and sometime pastor lead. At the beginning of the meeting, the participants were asked to close their eyes and ask Jesus into their hearts. Of course, the house payment was upermost in her mind, but she did as they were asked to do.

The next day, Satruday, Mail ran. She did not want to see the mail, to give them a few more days of space. But her brother, Richard, had to go and make his run.

Here, she had an evenlope from the bank. She did not want to open it, because three times you miss the payment, they foreclose. But, at last, she did open the evenlope, and looked with unbelieing eyes! There was no mention of the other two payments; she only owed for one month. Somehow, she still does not know how, the other two disapeared!?! Never mentioned again?!

Between her experience, and the one you shall read of the Rabbi, on this below linked website, I told Claire; "You have proved what I hae been preaching for decades; G-d does not look at lables, He looks at your heart. (So happened, she went on Friday night for the prayer meeting, and got the mail Satruday).Wink

I shared with her what I was doing, when we meet; praying that I would meet a woman with whom we were at least half-way compatable. We each got more than we hoped for.

G-d shall respond to you. This has been proven to me many times, and with friends of several religious backgrounds. Sinicerity is what He looks for, and ah honest heart. This website may help some.

http://www.aish.com/sp/pg/How_to_Die.html#.T9S5ZhyD8UM.facebook

I hope the above mesage from the Rabbi, and Claire's and mine experience shall help all to have a better life. G-d bless you.

Shalom;

Yechiel

 
Yechielshlipshon Thinks this answer is Helpful:

Dear Friends; I left out one important item; G-d place each of us where He wants us to be. It is His opinion that counts Pay attention, and the love of G-d on all.

Shalom;

Yechiel

 
MikeC

Zen Satanest    You said,"Primitive fear of offending some wrathful deity" That statement gives you away. As a father I reprimanded my children when they did wrong. Now as adults my children have grown, matured and realize why I did what I did. I guarantee you, my children will not remember me as a wrathful father but as a just one. To me, there is so much evidence around you all the time that begs for observation that can only be by design. Those who don't look, will never see.

 
Anonymous Comment

"Quote" G-d shall respond to you. This has been proven to me many times. It is His opinion that counts Pay attention.

 

 

And Jesus said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” Then they said to Him, “Who are You?” And Jesus said to them, “Just what I have been saying to you from the beginning” (John 8:23-25).

 

As always, You left out one important item; JESUS CHRIST

 

 
MikeC

 

Anoymous Think of what is being said here. " I am not of this world" Christ is the most important name of this world. Jesus said, " I am from above." Christ is one with the Father because he is one in spirit with the word. Jesus said " Just what I have been saying to you from the beginning" Since the creation of mankind God has raveled himself to us. What Christ said was and still is true. Christ is one with the Word and the Word is God. Now, for those who pray to the One above, the One not of this world, to the Word, to the I AM, to Christ, to the inseparable Trinity.   Don't you think it is best to let God handle the truth of who he is. Christ is the most important name on earth but the Word is the most important name in the universe and the Word is God. I quote Jesus the Christ, " Therefor you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all you mind, and with all your strength." This is the second, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself. " " There is no other commandment greater than these." Jesus did not say to love me with all your heart, he said to love your Lord your God.

I believe in Christ Jesus, I believe He is our Lord and savior but that does not take away of the fact that he is also the Word, the Lord God. He will hear all are prayers, each and every one of us. Our job is only to promote the words of Christ, to say why we believe, express our heart as if we where talking to our self. How we would like to hear the opinion of someone else that we love. Not for the sake of agreement, but for the sake of understanding. We do not have to agree but we are obligated to try and understand even if we cant. God/Christ is a player in the game of life and not an observer. We need to let others pray to there Lord, there God from above and at the same time realize that they cannot bypass the Lord our God, "Christ" the most important name on earth.   Jesus did say brother against brother etc. but that does not mean that we our obligated to create a fight.   We are obligated to try and create peace. 

That is the first and foremost obligation we have if we prioritize  according to the two most important commands given to us by Christ himself.

We need not to fear the beliefs of others because we are comfortable with what we consider the truth. We also have to be comfortable with the realization that God will intercede when we can’t convey the truth properly. We have to have confidence in His ability to express Himself to others in there own minds or spirit if you will. As He(God) wishes, under the name He wishes to go by. The One from above or the One of this earth.

 
Anonymous Comment

Mr. Catholic! Why don't you just run off and find out where your damned religion came from! It certainly ain't the Holy Bible! You folks have re-written the whole thing anyway!.


Sooner or later we're bound to bump into a hell bound Catholic. We've known your kind for hundreds of years. Your  the ones that used to kill people for reading the Bible back when True Christians had to hide out in order to Praise Jesus the right way. Truly Saved Christians were always persecuted by the Catholics.

 

Did you know that before they called themselves Catholics, they were called Romans? That's right! And they used to take folks like me and throw us to the lions. They even used to throw us up on crosses and light our heads on fire, until one of their fancy emperors decided there was enough money to be made by creating a state religion based on Christianity. So then the whole lot of Roman society became Catholic. And they took all the candle lighting, statue praying, and secret societies they used to have and just mixed them up with the Bible. Anyone who didn't agree with it, was either hunted down and killed or kicked out of the country.

Something that should clue the world in is the fact that Catholics insist on getting ALL their information about the Bible from old men who like to play with little boys' penises. Does anyone here understand that? I think the only thing we can do is just say that Catholics must be mentally sick. I figure that's an accurate statement, seeing as how they think they're Christians and not a one of them has ever cracked open a Bible to find out what they believe in. They'd rather have an old pervert in a dress teach them about Jesus. They run off and lock themselves in a closet with a man in a skirt and confess everything.

True Christians who read the Bible know that there is only one advocate for confessing our sins. 1 John 2:1 says, "And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and He is the propitiation for our sins." If that doesn't get your goat, Catholics are so Bible illiterate they even believe their priests have the power to forgive their sins! Mark 2:7 is pretty clear about who has the power to forgive sins, folks. It says, "Why doth this man (Catholic Priests) speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but GOD ONLY." Oh, your typical Catholic will spit off nursery school rhetoric about "Father such and such is not really forgiving me." Well, what do Catholics know anyway?

They are so ignorant that they even call their skirt wearing priests, "Father?" Well, Matthew 23:9 says; "And call no man your FATHER (this includes Priests) upon the earth: for one is your Father which is in heaven."

I certainly wouldn't want to have to explain to God why I was running around on Earth calling every man I saw wearing a skirt and a collar my Father. Would you? No, I didn't think so

Can you imagine all them Catholics gettin' to heaven and God asking them, "Okay, now tell Me why you believe in Me." They'll all drop their jaws to the floor and say, "Well, I never thought of 'why' I believe in you, I was just told it was what I was supposed to do." Won't they be surprised when Jesus lifts his hand back and smacks their heads right off their shoulders into the lake of fire. Glory to God!

 
Dobson

I just thank God that everything our youngsters know about the Catholic Church is what they've been hearing on TV. Most of our Truly Saved Christian children are so terrified of priests that they can't even sleep at night.

 
Anonymous Comment

It never ceases to amaze me how the "Catholics" seeing as how they think they're Christians and not a one of them has ever cracked open a Bible to find out what they believe in., tell us not to preach the word of God.

If they would only blow the dust off of their Bibles and put their noses into the 16th Chapter of Mark, they would find that Jesus commands us to preach the gospel. the world! He didn't say, "find a comfortable pew each Sunday morning. No, he said, ""Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel.

 
MikeC

Yes,  Preach the gospel according to Dobson and Anoymous !  Only as they see it,  only as they understand it,  only as they are nothing but truth.      What a joke !  

 
Anonymous Comment

MikeC: Yes,  Preach the gospel according to Dobson and Anoymous !  Only as they see it,  only as they understand it,  only as they are nothing but truth.      What a joke

 

 

There are numerous other statements and actions by the Catholic MikeC which revealed his abject hatred of Gods true word. What a shame Mike didn't accept the Bible's demands that He Repent and accept Christ as his only Lord and Savior and forgo the worship of idols and mortals.

 

Suffice it to say, his head is in the right place even though his heart and faith are not.  What a shame he never became a Christian as the Bible's demands, and how sad where he will be spending eternity for those he accused and condemned for teaching the True Word Of God, The Gospel Of Jesus Christ.

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