Discuss Anonymous's answer to: Best Religion

Which religion should I convert to?

Mike, What is the difference (if any) between the faith of the Old Testament characters and the faith of believers after the death and resurrection of Christ?

Liked this answer? Tell your friends about it

20 Comments About This Answer

Add your comment
 
MikeC

House on fire,  you started the fire.     Why would you tell enyone there house is on fire when it is your match that started it.  ? Surprised

 
Anonymous Comment

MikeC God is telling me.     I think you should look at scripures and tell me God did not say those things.


I CAN NOT TELL YOU GOD DID NOT SAY THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE GOD DID SAY THOSE THINGS AND GOD STILL SAYS THOSE THINGS TODAY.



"GOD...hath in these last days spoken unto us by his SON...who being the brightness of his glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON..."

--Hebrews 1:1-3



But I'm here to SHOW  you WHAT JESUS SAID. GOD DID SAY THOSE THINGS


JESUS SAID, If Jesus is not your Lord and Savior, you are on your way to hell.


And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." (Revelation 20:10)

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS. (Matthew 25:41)


    As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die... (Ezekiel 33:11)

    The Lord is...not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. (II Peter 3:9)


Matthew 25:41 [Jesus speaking to people at final judgment], ...Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

Revelation 14:11, And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night...

Revelation 20:12-20 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Matthew 10:28, And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Luke 12:5, But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which AFTER he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Matthew 18:8, 9 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or feet to be cast into everlasting fire. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Matthew 25:46, And these shall go away into EVERLASTING punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

II Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with EVERLASTING destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power.

Isaiah 66:24, And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be abhorring unto all flesh.

Mark 9:44 [speaking of hell], Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Jude 7, Sodom and Gomorrha...are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Matthew 22:13, ...Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 13:41-42, The Son of man [Jesus] shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Revelation 21:8, But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Psalm 9:17, The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Isaiah 14:9-11, 15 [referring to Lucifer], Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee...all they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee...thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Daniel 12:2, And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and EVERLASTING contempt.


The following account, told by the Lord Jesus Christ in Luke 16:19-31, gives us the actual words of a man in hell--notice how he is in torment and he can see and he wanted his tongue cooled and he is tormented in the flame. Notice how he wanted his brethren to be warned lest they enter that place of torment. Notice how the only hope that his brethren had was to believe the holy scriptures--there would be no other proof:

    19. There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

    20. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

    21. And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

    22. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

    23. And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    24. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

    25. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

    26. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

    27. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

    28. For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

    29. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

    30. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

    31. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.



I think you should look at scripures and tell me God did say those things. However, YOU CAN NOT, because you do not believe.

 


If your house were on fire, would you want me to let you know? Would you tell your neighbor his house is on fire? Of course you would. You'd probably thank me for telling you. Well, if you go to hell, YOU will be the one on fire. Laughing

 
Anonymous Comment

MikeC God is telling me.     I think you should look at scripures and tell me God did not say those things.

 

 

Mike,I will not LIE to you as you asked me to do. I can't  lie to you and tell you God did not say those things Mike, because God did say those things AS GOD HAS SHOWN YOU He did say those things.

 

Not only can I tell you God did say those things, I can tell and WILL tell you why YOU believe God did not say those things.IT IS BECAUSE your false Catholic church has LIED to YOU, and YOU have believed her LIES. Just like EVE believe SATANs LIE!!!SurprisedLaughing

 

Mike you Catholics believe we cannot confess our sins to God directly, but instead have to recite them to a pedophile intermediary, despite the fact that the Bible never suggests this.

 

They  think,(and have told you)  in order to be forgiven of sin, we have to recite rote prayers over and over (like some elementary school kid ordered to write, “I will not talk in class” 100 times on the blackboard), even though such nonsense finds no support in the Bible.

 

They baptize babies before they know the difference between Jesus and Pampers. Even worse, they have told you to reject the Bible in favor of the statements of some nelly queen in a dress and a Madonna bosom-cup hat, believing anything that idol says while in the cathedral comes from God.

 

Mike, That is blasphemy if the term has any meaning! And worst of all, they/YOU  don’t believe  one must be born again to enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

 

The bottom line is that the Catholic church you belong to is nothing more than a cult that happened to catch on. Granted, the pope has a greater following than Jim Jones did, but the distinction ends there.

 

One need only watch an altar boy walk bowlegged from a priest’s chambers to recognize theirs is hardly the “true faith.” Homosexuality is not merely something the Catholics have overlooked and ignored. It is something they have actively promoted.

 

And if all of that isn’t enough to convince you of the truth, bear in mind that Catholics claim to have seen visions of the face of Mary bleeding on objects ranging from an adobe wall to a bowel movement. They might as well be Elvis-spotters. And for all the good the pomp and circumstance of their services will do them, the Catholics might as well just sacrifice pets on their front lawns. That would give them the same shot at Heaven -- none.

 

So say “farewell,” “goodbye,” “hope the heat doesn’t get to you” to all your Catholic friends. For one thing is certain. There is no room in Heaven for Mary-loving, incense-burning, Pope-adoring, candle-lighting, apparition-seeing, statue-slobbering, ring-kissing, wafer-eating, stained glass-loving, altar-boy banging, mackarel-snapping idol-worshipers!

 
MikeC

Anonymous    The only one that is false on here is you ! You try to provoke me with this Catholic church nonsense that you know absolutely nothing about and it has not worked. By your actions, you have as much knowledge of Christ as a nat. You post and past without thought or knowledge. You say you just post what Christ said. You post half truths. Not that what is said is a lie but rather the intention behind the response is a lie. You simply do not look for truth. You look for conformation on a twisted ideology. When Christ said something, it was God that said it and you can’t get your mind to understand that. You refuse to think, to adjust because you think you are an exceptional solider for Christ. I personally would never have you on the front line because you do not know how to adjust and it is as simple as that. If it is not in black and white you simply would not know what to do. You are lost because you only understand words but lack the foresight or the comprehension behind those words.

  

 
Anonymous Comment

As a professed Catholic (candle lighting, Pope loving, apparition seeing, bead counter), you are used to attending church services where you have no idea what your so-called skirt-wearing minister is talking about because he is speaking in a different language. Since it is illegal for Catholics to read Bibles, and the Bibles that Catholics use are not really real King James 1611 Bibles anyway, therefore


You reject the Bible in favor of the statements of some nelly queen in a dress and a Madonna bosom-cup hat, believing anything that idol says while in the cathedral comes from God.

Even worse YOU  don’t believe  one must be born again to enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

You believe we cannot confess our sins to God directly, but instead have to recite them to a pedophile intermediary, despite the fact that the Bible never suggests this.

You  think, in order to be forgiven of sin, you have to recite rote prayers over and over (like some elementary school kid ordered to write, “I will not talk in class” 100 times on the blackboard), even though such nonsense finds no support in the Bible.


No wonder people can not trust a word you say.

 
MikeC

Anonymous     First of all Latin in the U.S. as far as mass goes, hasn’t been used in 30 years. It is not illegal for Catholics to read Bibles. I do it all the time and there is no law that states I cannot read the Bible.    As matter of record, bible study is done all the time in a Catholic Church. Just another one of those stupid remarks that you know nothing about.    Trust,,,, I don't think there is one person on this thread that trusts you ! Why should they. You hide, you respond with anger, you ignore truth when presented to you. No Kid, you should first look in the mirror and ask yourself if you have been truly honest. I know the answer to that and it is not pretty.

 
Yechielshlipshon Thinks this answer is Helpful:

Dear Mike;

I post direct from the Tanach, where HaSHem is quoted, and get less than a Christian response from him. So I figure I have more important things to deal with than play games.

Have a good day and GBY

Shalom;

Yechiel

 
Anonymous Comment

You keep saying you have more important things to deal with than play games.WELL, take your sorry A$$ off here and stop with your NON BELIEVING IN JESUS CHRIST, GOD SAID YOU WERE HIS CHOSEN games.!!!!

 
Anonymous Comment

bible study is done all the time in a Catholic Church.



The Bibles that Catholics use for bible study are not really real King James 1611 Bibles anyway, therefore  the statements  from some nelly queen in a dress and a Madonna bosom-cup hat teaching bible study are from a false catholic perverted bible, You believe anything that idol says while he lies to you telling you his words comes from God.

 

BTW, you are the one who ask me to TELL YOU A LIE , tell you what God said was not true.

 

MikeC wrote: God is telling me.     I think you should look at scripures and tell me God did not say those things.

 

I haven't done that yet, AND I never will!!!! PETERLaughing

 
Anonymous Comment

Yechiel, what is your purpose on here anyway? How can you help us Christians who believe in Jesus Christ with our walk in the Lord Jesus? You don't believe in Jesus Christ, you don't believe Jesus is God, you don't believe in the New Testament Bible that we believe in, what can you do as a Jew to help us?

 

What can you do for us? Brag to us Christians about how you say being a Jew God told you that you are Gods Chosen, and that  He told you Jews He didn't want you to believe in the false god Jesus Christ that He told us Goys to believe in, that God told you that you Jews were special, it's just those Goys that need to believe in that Idol, that man, Jesus who is not God.

 

Then turn around after that and tell us, but we Jews encourage  you fool Goys to go ahead and believe in your Jesus anyway, but for us Jews we are special, we are Gods Chosen.

 

There is nothing else you can tell us. That's what you tell us in every one of your post. How you Jews cannot believe in our Jesus because God told you Jews you were His Chosen and for you not to believe in the phony man Jesus Christ that He told us Goys we had to believe in, but go ahead Goy and believe in your Phony Jesus because we Jews know Jesus Christ is not God anyway, because God told us so, but He didn't tell you Goys.

 

What good does that do us Christians? You cutting down our faith in Jesus Christ, by telling us to go ahead and believe in your Jesus, but we Jews are Gods Chosen and God told US not to believe in your Jesus because he was just a man, an idol, and God told US JEWS we were not to believe in you Goys Idol, God told US JEWS we were to believe in Him.

 

What good are you doing for us Christians who believe in Jesus Christ? Look at your post above. There again you telling us Christians the same thing that I have just explained here, another reason why you Jews  cannot accept Jesus Christ.

 

What good are you doing us Christians who believe in Jesus Christ?

 

You just go on and on about how  God told you Jews you are His Chosen but we Christians (Goys) are not. That God told you we Goys have to believe in what you say God told you is a Idol, a man Jesus Christ, who you say God told you Jews is not God.

 

What are you doing when you tell us Christians that God told you Jews you are His Chosen and that He told you Jews Jesus Christ was just a man, that Jesus lied when he said he was God in the flesh, that God told you Jews not to believe in Jesus who lied and called himself God?

 

What are you doing when you tell us that God told you Jews that you were special, His Chosen, that He only told us Christians to believe in that Jesus Christ who lied and said He was God,

Add Your Comment (or add your own answer)
Insert: