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Which religion should I convert to?

Jameslee, You said, " Why would an all knowing God intervene or act or react to an outcome that He already knows? He knows the cause and effect of everything in mans life."

 

If you believe in the Bible as a whole and not in part you would understand God can control what he knows and what he does not want to know. The fact is what has been written in the bible, the reactions of God along with the reasons behind the actions. God chose for us to have freedom of will. He gave us that and on doing so, he restricted himself to certain principles. Yes he knows the future of mankind and knows the outcome of many things and yet at the same time when it comes to personnel choices he lets us make those choices freely. The choices that God set for himself is far beyond our comprehension yet in the Bible with all the interventions of God we find that he has reacted to certain things. Loss of paradise, the flood, the plagues, loss of power and kingdoms. All these things are written in scripture. The things is, is any part of scripture a lie ? Do we just pick and choose what we like or do we try and understand the whole of it ? God created us, God intervened when and where he wished, such as when He came here on earth in the flesh under the name of Jesus. God sends us messages and messengers. The foundation of our creation (Humankind) was based on a simple principle. To understand there is a creator, the love of that creator and the willingness to seek that creator freely. The Prince of Peace came here exactly for that reason, to show us the way and the ability to seek Him freely. The words where written, the guide map was drawn and the example was made. Now it is up to us to find the truth. Jesus Christ was truly God in the flesh. He did everything in his power to come to us without us living in fear of Him and yet everything in his power to show us the way. All we need to do is listen. It is all in the Bible as a whole. From the beginning " See! The man has become like one of us, knowing what is good and what is Bad ! ( The words of a proud Father ), " The Son of Man has not come to be served but to serve, to give his life in ransom for the Many." (Out of love for his creation) "When you lift up the Son of Man, you will come to realize that I AM and I do nothing by myself. ( That is because Jesus was one and the same as the I AM) " The Father and I are one." My Father said to us, "You are my friends" From the beginning of scripture, through the end of scripture God pleads with us to understand the importance of each individual. It is also obvious to me that Jesus, the physical aspect of God showed us the importance of each individual and how we should act. In all of this we still have a right to choose. For those who seek honestly "will find" and have nothing to fear from the Father. "Intent" is the key word here, what is a persons intent ? BGY MikeC

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jameslee's post of his god Satan must never be exposed, remember, and great force must immediately be used against those of us who would lead people to the redemptive plan of God through His Son Christ Jesus, and also against anyone who would dare expose his satanic plot that has been kept secret for so many hundreds of years.

 The name "heretic" must be labeled upon all those of us who are enlisted by God to preach the glorious redemptive plan and who expose the idolatrous facade of Satan.Those that have chosen Satan's message, rather than God's Word, are commanded by Satan's minister on here  to hate  of those of us who post the word of God.

Satan's minister on here instruct people to ignore the messengers of light. Satans minister of darkness also instruct people to delete any post that exposes him.. He twist the Scriptures as Satan did to Christ on the Mount of Temptation. In vicious, violent fear of exposure, Satan's followers scream loudly that those of us who are obedient to God's instructions are "haters" and should all be put in mental institutions. According to the Scriptures, Satan and his followers are the mental cases for being imprisoned in their lunacy forever in a burning Hell.

All  of Satan's sons careful, secret, cunning works he post on here are in one moment destroyed when God's messengers come to town and exposes him. The electricity runs to high voltage level because Satan's arch enemy has come, and jameslee must discredit everything about this message. Hence, these sordid stories must be told, and all the things that Satan is, Satan must accuse a child of God of being.

This he must do to preserve the secrecy of his evil intentions for us who have accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord God and savior. The fallacy, the false facade of his post, is being torn down, exposed now, and at all cost this cannot happen. People will be able to see  the vice, the corruption, every filthy abomination of his post that God says is in him

 
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jameslee102447 Answered:


When one demonizes that which they are not is when they make an idol of that which they are.

Some on this thread have made Jesus and Idol, Jesus the Christ is not and Idol but the moment that you demonize others that do not believe as you, regardless of Faith, then you are representing yourself and a false idol. These are those who have missed the mark, and have not understood the teachings of Jesus the Christ. These are those who consistently repeat rudimentary Christian doctrine for lack of being able to go beyond. These are those who are consistently demonizing others that do not believe as they only say that they believe. These are those who misrepresent scripture in order to vilify and denigrate others to others for their own disturbed agenda. These are those who can only use other peoples thoughts and scriptures because they have none of their own. These are third world thinkers. One thing is assured and that is they are not Christian. American maybe but even that is in doubt because of their inability to write without using everyone else’s writings, and cut & paste. Jesus the Christ is not in want of one with a worldly behavior of false righteousness, but is in want of those who believe on Him and his teachings and are filled with internal righteous behavior, the outward behavior will follow. In want of the unrighteous to follow Him and for all to be transformed.

 

 

You sure have a way of twisting and demonizing us who believe in Jesus Christ, demonizing us who believe in and post the written word of God, demonizing us who have accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord God and savior.

 

jameslee102447 Answered: When one demonizes that which they are not

 

You are correct, It is you who demonizes us. It is you who has never accepted Jesus Christ is God, it is you who has never accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord God and savior , it is you who demonizes us who believe in Jesus Christ is God and have accepted Jesus as our Lord God and savior.

 

jameslee102447 Answered:, is when they make an idol of that which they are.

 

Yes you are Correct, You make it clear in your words.Jesus Christ is not your Lord God and savior.You make it clear, Jesus Christ is not your God or your Idol.

 

jameslee102447 Answered:Some on this thread have made Jesus and Idol,

 

Yes, some have.Jesus Christ is my Idol, Jesus Christ is My Lord God and Savior. My Idol. I believe every word of God, I believe as Jesus Christ does and as He  says in His word.

 

jameslee102447 Answered:Jesus the Christ is not and Idol,

 

You are correct again, you make it clear, Jesus Christ is not your God, not your  Idol, because you have never accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord God and Savior

 

jameslee102447 Answered, but the moment that you demonize others that do not believe as you, regardless of Faith

 

You are the one who demonize those of us who believe in Jesus Christ the word of God, we believe as Jesus does, It is you who demonize "His word" the word of God we believe. It is you who does not believe as Jesus does.

 

jameslee102447 Answered, then you are representing yourself and a false idol.

 

It is clear I represent Jesus Christ My Lord God and Savior by His written word in scripture that I believe in and post. It is clear then, you are representing yourself and a false idol.

 

jameslee102447 Answered,These are those who have missed the mark, and have not understood the teachings of Jesus the Christ. These are those who consistently repeat rudimentary Christian doctrine for lack of being able to go beyond.These are those who are consistently demonizing others that do not believe as they only say that they believe. These are those who misrepresent scripture in order to vilify and denigrate others to others for their own disturbed agenda. These are those who can only use other peoples thoughts and scriptures because they have none of their own. These are third world thinkers. One thing is assured and that is they are not Christian. American maybe but even that is in doubt because of their inability to write without using everyone else’s writings, and cut & paste. Jesus the Christ is not in want of one with a worldly behavior of false righteousness, but is in want of those who believe on Him and his teachings and are filled with internal righteous behavior, the outward behavior will follow. In want of the unrighteous to follow Him and for all to be transformed.

 

Thank you for showing us without a doubt, it is you who is demonizing those of us who believe in Jesus Christ is God our Lord God and Savior, those of us who you say, "are those who have missed the mark, and have not understood the teachings of Jesus the Christ". those of us in Jesus Christ do not go beyond believing in Jesus Christ the word of God who you say, "are those who consistently repeat rudimentary Christian doctrine for lack of being able to go beyond.

 

Thank you for showing us without a doubt, it is you who is demonizing those of us who believe in and have accepted Jesus Christ is God our Lord God and Savior, those of us who you say,"These are those who misrepresent scripture in order to vilify and denigrate others to others for their own disturbed agenda".

 

Thank you for showing us without a doubt, it is you who is demonizing those of us who believe in Jesus Christ is God our Lord God and Savior, those of us who have none of our own words, but only have Gods written word as our own, His word we have ,His word we believe in and use ONLY Gods written word in scripture to represent Jesus Christ our Lord God and Savior. Those of us  who you demonize  by saying," These are those who can only use other peoples thoughts and scriptures because they have none of their own".

 

Thank you for showing us without a doubt, it is you who is demonizing those of us who believe in Jesus Christ is God ,we who have accepted Jesus christ as our Lord God and Savior, those of us who have none of our own words, but only have Gods written word as our own, those of us  who you demonize by saying,"These are third world thinkers.

It is clear, if you had accepted Jesus Christ as your lord God and savior, you would not be demonizing those of us who believe in Jesus Christ is God ,we who have accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord God and Savior, those of us who have none of our own words, but only have Gods written word as our own.


You  won't be facing man at the judgment bar of God. You will be facing the Almighty, Jesus Christ your Creator. You will not be facing a fake, tin god, who wears a white sheet, but you will be facing Him, Jesus Christ, the I AM, The lord God Almighty, the one who by your own words you have not accepted as your Lord God and savior..

 
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"He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God" (John 8:47).


 By Satan's cunningly disguising himself as a special angel of light from God (II Cor. 11:14), he caused Eve to disregard the warnings from God, the Son, which He had commanded to them on one of his evening visits. Thus, Satan became Eve's master. She immediately became Satan's first evangelist and Adam her convert. Thus, rulership of the world belonged to Satan, and a wall of partition between God and man was fixed.

The world was now dark, and communication between God and man over, unless God's redemptive instructions be followed exactly. The plan was instituted, and it was called the plan of salvation. God's Son must come to die to show all humanity the awfulness of sin and Hell. Also, God must show by this unparalleled sacrifice His unspeakable love for mankind that passes understanding (II Cor. 9:15).

 Burnt sacrificial offerings and altars were instituted as a symbol for man to show by faith that God was going to send His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. If a man believed that God would surely send His only begotten Son to die on the cross and shed His blood for the forgiveness of the soul of mankind, then he was to show his belief by taking the best of his flock, one without spot or blemish, slay it, sprinkle its blood on the altar (the altar being a figure symbolic of man's heart), and then burn the sacrifices with fire by friction. The smell of the offering would ascend to Heaven as a sweet-smelling savor unto the Lord. This showed God that this man loved and believed God and not Satan. Satan, like jameslee. hated this plan of salvation because it reunited man with God and took away Satan's lordship over man.

The wall of partition that separated one from the other now had a door--the belief that faith in God through Jesus Christ, the Door, the Way, the Life, the Truth, the Alpha, the Omega, the Beginning, the End, the Bright and Morning Star, the "I AM," the Prince of Peace, the Prince of Life, the Saviour, the Lord, the Creator of the world and all that is therein, the Author and Finisher of our faith, is the fullness of the Godhead bodily, and in Him are we complete, reunited with God.

Yes, Satan, as does jameslee, hated the plan of salvation that was set up for mankind. All those who peopled the earth were on their way to Hell unless the plan of escape (redemption) was presented properly in detail by concerned ones who had already found the way. God knows the merciful, for they concern themselves about others who are mystified at how to obtain redemption, and it became Satan's mission, through people like jameslee  then and today to confuse the simplicity of it by satanic deception (disguised as an angel of light).

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