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Which religion should I convert to?

God is Spirit and is accepted with faith, and this means that God is speculation, abstract thought, and contemplation, all summed up as theory. So what we have is a denial of God and a belief in God regardless of the evidence for the believer and the lack of proof for the non-believer, we are left with conjecture. There simply is no way to prove either theory from a worldly wise mentality to a worldly wise mentality. The arguments between these theories mostly end up as a “is to, is not, is to” conclusion.

Those who dwell in the sciences and religious fundamentalist are the ones who have kept the argument alive. Scientist and religious scholars have long time agreed that there is no worldly wise proof. Also any explanation regarding these theories is just supposition regardless if you choose science or faith. As for me I believe that both science and religion have merit, but theory is still theory. The impasse we have between the believer and the atheist is that the atheist keeps asking the same redundant question, over and over again, where’s the proof. When it comes to theology one need not question the lack of knowledge, understanding and wisdom of the atheist, it is apparent. Their inability to understand the simple concept of “God is accepted by faith” and the proof they repetitiously keep asking for even after being given the answer is more of a reaching out, not really a question. Regardless of how one tries one cannot explain the color purple to a blind person, nor can you make a dog look at the object in the distance by pointing.

With all that being said it still remains that proof and evidence is everywhere for the spiritually educated, but the atheist remains in darkness by choice, not intelligence.

One can search every facet of the Universe, but unless one carries that which one is searching for with them, they find it not.
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The term “New Age” Is an informal term, which teaches that this earth and mankind are on the verge of an evolutionary transition from the Piscean Age to the Aquarian Age and a new spirituality. With it comes harmony to all things, the golden age talked about from all religions is soon to emerge. That those who have participated in the higher consciousness revolution have already made a transition to homo-Noeticus and soon to Homo-Christos. The “New Age” is hardly a new view, in fact, it is very ancient, the most ancient of all lies.

HISTORY

The New Age Movement is actually a modern revival of ancient religious (pagan) practices. The original source is found in Genesis 3:1-5, expressed in Satan's temptation of man. The original lie had man fall from his pure estate; Satan brought doubt of God's word, His authority and benevolent rule to man Gen.3. He disputed that death would occur from disobedience to Gods decrees and claimed that if they acquired what god said not to, they could be enlightened and be “like God” their creator. The original lie echoes through time to today, the modern Gnostic movement  is yearning to repeat history, to their own demise. By gaining knowledge of both good and evil they had something that God was protecting them from, evil being sin. The immediate affect is shame and guilt which we all have today. The fig leaves did not cover Adam and eve and today they have no covering either.

Many of the occult practices and beliefs revived by the modern NAM were a part of very early pagan cultures. Many practices common to the NAM such as witchcraft, sorcery, spiritism (contacting spirits from the other worlds), divination, astrology (clairvoyance; seeing the future), necromancy (consulting the dead) mediums (channeling) all of these and more are clearly and strongly condemned in Scripture (Deut. 18: 9-17; Lev.19, Isaiah 47: 9-15). These and other occultic practices were practiced by the ancient tribes and mystery religions of the Chaldeans, Egyptians, and the Babylonian culture. Horoscopes, palm reading, crystal ball, water witching, pendulum, divining rod, tarot cards, tea leave reading, numerology, palmistry, Ouiji board and the study of animal entrails have given way to more modern updated names but the practices are still the same. Only the names have changed such as channeling or spirit guides is the practice of ancient mediums and spiritism. These have been used by shamans, witchdoctors and mystics in the ancient world. God has always warned his people not to participate in this.

More recently in more modern times in America by Emanuel Swedenborg (mid 1700's) and Theosophy introduced by Madame Helena Blavatsky (mid to late 1800's) also Annie Besant . Rudolf Steiner and Alice Bailey had a strong influence. The decade of the sixties witnessed a revival of Eastern mysticism in America as traditional values were discarded and replaced by the new (old) ways. Today its premier speaker would be Benjamin Creme who is trying to introduce the new age “wanna be” Christ.

In the mid eighties, Shirley MacLaine's books and TV mini-series gave the NAM more exposure and prominence. J.Z. Knight and Lazarus as well as Mafu were given promos on Oprah Winfrey as well as other TV programs. Various research polls have indicated a significant shift has been occurring in the West, both in the beliefs and practices of the New Age world-view. 60 million American believe in psychic powers and have had some type of experience with the paranormal. For example, 36% of Americans believe that astrology is scientific, after all it’s in almost all the newspapers. 25% now accept reincarnation. Near-death experiences have been popularized, therapeutic touch, channeling, Meditation, UFOS, extra terrestrials, space brothers, ascended masters, are all part of the cultures consciousness because of TV talk shows and movies. Psychic readings on ones credit card had become the #1 info-mercial on TV. America is fascinated with the occult.

The movement has their own vocabulary and even start their own communities. They have made their services known nationwide by having a new age yellow pages, a US guide to consciousness raising services, products and organizations. 52 publishing houses had formed the New Age publishing and retail alliance. Their slogan to start was a consciousness whose time has come. Occult and metaphysical books are in and big business. Snowboarding to Nirvana by author and occult promoter Fred Lenz made it to the NY times bestseller list. This has become more accepted as literally our culture begs for the unusual to the bizarre for entertainment, even in books.

Financial success: Forbes magazine in June of 1987 reported the new age market increased to 3.43 billion dollars. It has become big business. New age music brings in well over a hundred million a year, new age jewelry over 5 million, crystals are sold from 10.00 to 100.00 dollars and some up to 10,000 dollars.

DOCTRINE

New Age groups are quite eclectic; drawing from several different sources but one of the more prominent unifying themes of the NAM is their experiences which bind them together. Absolute truth is replaced by subjective experiences. All is relative and interpreted by each individual.

The Uan

The term “New Age” Is an informal term which teaches that this earth is on the verge of an evolutionary transition from the Piscean Age to the Aquarian Age a new spirituality. With it comes harmony of all things, the golden age talked about from all religions. That those who have participated in the higher consciousness revolution have already made a transition from homo-sapien to homo-Noeticus, and soon to homo Christos. This is a spiritual evolution where man discovers himself as God, for he consists of and is the creator of “the forces.” Man needs only to awaken to this fact. The only discontinuity between man and “God” is our ignorance of the unlimited potential already in us.

God

Even though many New Age adherents describe “God” in personal terms, ultimately, “God” is an impersonal life force, consciousness or energy (M. Ferguson, Aquarian Conspiracy. p. 382; Shakti Gawain, Living In the Light, pp. 7-8).

Man is himself God, for he consists of and is the creator of “the forces.” Man needs only to awaken to this fact. The only discontinuity between man and “God” is our Ignorance of the unlimited potential in us already. Man creates his own reality. Absolute truth is replaced by subjective experiences.

The cosmology (the nature of the world and universe) of the NAM is pantheistic, which means that everything that exists is of one essence, and that one essence is God. Everything is expressed in a different form of that same essence (energy, consciousness, power, love. force). So all the universe is in the state of God.

Jesus Christ

(1) Jesus was not and is not the only Christ, nor is he God.

Jesus was a man who evolved spiritually to the state of “the Christ” being. “The Christ” is an actual state of ultimate essence. Everyone's true being is “the Christ” and each person's goal is to come to that self-realization (A Course in Miracles, Vol. 3, pp. 83-4). So to the New Ager, Jesus the Christ, is one of Many ascended masters - a wayshower, whose function is to awaken humanity and Illumine the Path. Many even reinvent the historical Jesus by claiming that He traveled to India and learned the New Age doctrines there during His “silent years” (Shirley MacLaine, Out on a Limb, pp. 233-34).

(2) The most prominent theme held in common in the NAM is their experiences which unifies them together. “God” is impersonal, cosmic, a God of energy of forces.

3) Man's Destiny-Since Man is intrinsically divine and perfect, his only real problem is Ignorance of that fact. Man has a Perception of finiteness, which is in reality an illusion (Ken Keyes, Jr., Handbook to Higher Consciousness, pp. 125-29). Salvation in the New Age is for man to become enlightened through experiential knowledge (gnosis). Man should seek and accept his spiritual instruction and direction from spirit guides. New Age groups offer various Occultic techniques to enable individuals, and ultimately the world, to evolve into this oneness (unitive) consciousness (James Redfield, The Celestine Prophecy: An Experimental Guide, pp. 243-60). These techniques May Include altered states of consciousness (often transcendental meditation), yoga, crystals, channeling (spirit guides), psychics, past life therapy, acupuncture, etc.

(4) All religions and religious teachings lead to the same goal. All are equally of merit. New Age groups are eclectic, they draw from numerous different sources as long as it is agreeable to their world view.

(5) The “ancient wisdom” of Babylon, Egypt and Greece not the Bible-is the basis of all Truth. No one religion has the truth. One learns by experience, he receives a special gnosis leading him on his own path. Barbara Marx Hubbard believes we are experiencing a new Pentecost.

(6) Sin and evil do not exist. Peace and love are the ultimate realities. Man is not sinful but is a potential God since his true essence is divine and perfect. Yet Paul said that in him dwelled nothing good. And Jesus' mission was to deal with the sin factor not give us a higher consciousness

There are universal beliefs among New Ager's that are held in common. The Hindu concept of reincarnation which teaches that after death souls comes back in another body to continue their spiritual lessons of evolvement back to the source which is God. New Ager's consistently misrepresent church history, they argue without any verifiable proof that the early church suppressed the teaching of reincarnation and censored its teaching at the council of Nicea. Doctrines of Christianity are often distorted using Scripture indiscriminately to support their occult ideas by finding separate words or phrases to make it say what they would like it too.

L.U.R.M.

 
jameslee102447

 

 

What I have written is not “New Age”, at least not by my own design, it is common senses with anyone thinking for their selves. Perhaps your spiritual vision is not what you think it is. It is very apparent to anyone with just a little insight that calling it what it is not changes nothing. Rather you are self-righteous or just ignorant to the higher thinking is of no importance to me, but should be to yourselves. Opening your mind with a little spiritual substance can’t hurt anyone, but staying locked into scripture with this simple fundamental thinking only makes one stagnant.

 

All you have contributed is scripture that anyone here can find for them selves, and I say scripture because there is no original thought of your own. You do nothing but attack and cause dissension between all religions. Dissension between teacher and student who are learning spiritual thought, and we are all teachers and students of God. And you call what I have written “New Age” because of your inability to understand. A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.

 
jameslee102447

I must say I have not seen this kind of hate towards God in a long time. Have you not heard that God is Love? You have only reflected hate, this kind of behavior is very unbecoming and it does not take much to see who is and who is not. 

A man shall be commended according to his wisdom: but he that is of a perverse heart shall be despised.

God Bless     

 

 
MikeC

Both the new and old testaments our like the format of a love letter by God.  There is much in this letter that can be taken in sticked adherence.  There is also much in this letter that can be interpreted in many different principles of thought.  The format has to be analyzed, thought about and used for a common basic belief to why mankind even exists.  The format,  both old and new testaments has to be taken seriously at all levels of thought.  Nothing that was written in the old or the new testament can be taken lightly.   There is and always has been a serious thought behind every sentence, every word , and every paragraph. There is no antiquated word or sentence.   Take what has been written siriously  as your eternal life depends on every word.   Believe it or not,   It does !

 
jameslee102447

Attn: Alboah 

I see that you deleted your comment.  Good thinking.

God Bless

 
Alboah

Whatever. I call what you teach OF SATAN!!! NEW AGE!! GOD CALLS YOU A LIAR IN HIS WORD!!!!  You can not back up ANYTHING you teach with The word of God that is in the Bible, NOTHING!!! What you teach is NOT in the word of God in scriptire!! You deceived idiot!! It's not the gospel of Jesus Christ you teach. Your the one who will have to pay the price on judgement day for teaching people a lie, sending their souls to hell for believing your lie, your NEW AGE false gospel of your father SATAN!!!

 

The truth I speak is the word of God thats in the bible, Gods word that YOU call attacking you because you HATE the true word of God. Why don't you Post Gods word to PROVE what you teach is what GOD SAYS.  YOU CAN NOT, because what you teach is NOT in the Bible!!!There is NO truth of Gods word in you!!! Only hatred in you of Gods true word that I speak!!

 

 
Alboah

jameslee102447 I must say I have not seen this kind of hate towards God in a long time

 

 

I see hate of Gods word in you all the time. The only hate here is your hate of God and Gods word that I post. I love God, I love Gods word, thats why I post what God says in His word. You do not agree with anything God says. You do not post anything God says. Besause YOU HATE what God says.

 
jameslee102447

Attn: Alboah

And what is it that I teach that is of Satan, for I am not as well versed as to what Satan teaches as you seem to be, other then hate. And do you really think it’s appropriate to speak for God? The spiritual substance that I teach is in the Bible and is in many cases scripture without the book, chapter and verse. But you would not know that because you do not know all scripture. You are correct in part when you say “What you teach is NOT in the word of God in scriptire!!”, this is true of everyone, some teach love, some teach hate but no one really teaches scripture, scripture teaches itself. You may have learned it in words but not in essences.

I teach and share the truth of Jesus the Christ with the accumulated knowledge, understanding and wisdom that I have received within my life from my own God sent experiences. You accuse me of teaching a lie and sending souls to hell for believing these lies. Are you living in a comic book? Put your faith in Jesus the Christ not in anyone you believe is teaching lies. It is better to acknowledge God then to deny Satan.

You say post Gods word, I do and have but you have not been able to see because you would rather cause dissension between the Children of God rather then Unity.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and teaching. It is also the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy is understanding.

 
jameslee102447

One may call them self a Christian because they go to Church, or they may call them self a Christian in order to deceive, but this does not make one a Christian. So if a self proclaimed Christian or and infiltrator it still remains that it is your behavior and those who witness to you that makes you a Christian.

 
Anonymous Comment

Alboah, I just left a New Age Church because God opened my eyes to the truth. I was in that false New Age doctrine for 5 years until God opened my eyes. What james teaches is the false New Age gospel. It's not the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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