Which religion should I convert to?
The Ten Commandments brought down by Moses and written in stone became the governing factor for his people’s transformation into great nations. These were nations governed by judges who had discovered the one true God, overseers of moral laws not politics. His teaching was of a unity of all with God and the Universal Law of cause and effect. Adhering to the Ten Commandments was part of the preconditioning of minds towards the transformation of the hearts of generations to come.
Jesus the Christ time-honored the Ten Commandment as a way of life; yet had the insight that reading and thinking them in mind generated desires of their counterpart. His teachings were that conceiving the deed in mind was the same as committing the act. He emphasized the need for storing up treasures in heaven by feeding the heart as a result of fixing the mind on spiritual and not material things. The new born creatures in Christ had accepted the Ten Commandments both Jew and non Jew. The fellowship of Jesus no longer had a mindset on thou shall, or thou shall not; but was now to become the righteousness of God while having the Law of God embedded within. The effect of Gods Spirit on the hearts of man created a transformation into new Christian personalities that could be read by all observers. Fix the mind on spiritual things and out of the abundance of the heart you will speak.
Good. Now, where is the success of this meathod shown?
Don't you get it? I guess not. You can find the success of this meathod shown in Jesus Christ.
You have not got it! There are millions of successful Christians. What I am asking, and you have not a clue, as what is the basis of their success in life?
Jesus told a man what it is, in Matthew 19:16-19.
I re-told it several times.
Most here accept it, as it is what the positive parts of Christian history is based on, absence of same is the reason for Christians failure to maintain peace between Christian and Christian so often.
As for His Ten Words? He said they are forever.
You are right that Jesus showed the way to success, we can see where you missed the mark.
And you are trying to tell everyone how to live?
Shalom, Friends, and have fun. I am.
I went to a Christian site I go to now and then, when I want to find ansers for you.
Here is the web-site and an article on the Ten Commandments.
The fact that God the Father would manifest 10 specific commandments on a tablet of stone tells me that He is very serious about these specific commandments!
This was one big huge event when it happened in the story of Moses. The fact that God would go this far in manifesting these special 10 commandments on a real live tablet of stone tells me that these commandments should never be taken lightly or for granted.
Most Christians have heard about these 10 commandments while going through grade school and high school and the story as to how they all came about. As a result, I feel that many Christians take these special ten commandments for granted and really do not realize the power and authority that is on these special commandments.
The 10 commandments come to us from Exodus 20:1-17. Here is the verse:
And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
You shall have no other gods before me.
You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”
The above 10 commandments need no explanation. They mean exactly what they are saying. It’s quite amazing how many of these commandments are being broken on a regular basis, even by Christians themselves. If you look very closely at each of these commandments, they really do cover a broad spectrum as to what God is expecting from each one of us.<<<
OK, my friends. Here is an reminder. I am not telling anyone how to anything; reather, HaShem told us, and He expects us to comply the best we can.
Jesus asked from his Gentile followers at least the 7 Laws of Noah, as i shared with you from Matthew. I do not think there is one Commandment any of us can violate and not repent, and expect to go to Heaven.
Just a reminder, but we all need one, now and then.
Let me assure you that there are no Christians that take the Ten Commandments for granted any more then a Jew would take them for granted. As I have said and let me be real clear, A REAL CHRISTIAN follows the commandments by instinct for they are embedded within them. A REAL JEW is one who follows the written LAWS and OBEYS them. With that being said we know that all fail in obeying them, so what we have is that a REAL JEW is ANYONE who is right with God. Knowing that all fail in obeying the Ten Commandments is not a license to disobey them for that is not being right with God. If they are not right with God they are not Christian or Jew. Blessings and Salvation is given freely by God, not for obeying Him but by Faith.
And yes you are correct when you say that there is not one commandment that one can break and enter the Kingdom of Heaven, to enter the presents of God one must be guiltless and this is done by forgiveness of all Sin by faith. The bottom line here is that there is no greater love one can show then by obeying the will of God and this can only be done in faith.
You stated; With that being said we know that all fail in obeying them, so what we have is that a REAL JEW is ANYONE who is right with God.
Saying I agree with you on this; Gandhi then is a real Jew, as well as Sun Yet Shin and several Popes.
By this logic, they are or were also real Americans, as they followed the Democratic way of thinking.
Can they be President? Obama made it, but would we consider him a real American? Fact is, they cannot legally even vote in November, in a National election. They cannot legally be part of several functions which constitute a practicing Jew.
As it happened, my father's first wife was Russian Orthodox Christian. My mother told me that she was a wonderful person (she died of Pneumonia) and her being Christian was over-looked. If it was an issue at anytime, my two older sisters would have had to converted to Judaism, for their children to be considered Jewish. Sometimes some slip through.
But, James, two wrongs a right does not make. There are several good reasons why you, if you want to be considered Jewish, has to go through conversion. Main one is to maintain the standards HaShem has for us.
Although it may be easy to say it does not matter if we continue or not, James, think; when is it easiest for you to compromise on what you learned as a youth?
After the one who showed you dies. As long as our parents are alive, for most of us, it is hardest to depart from what they taught us.
Judaism is your parent faith. As much as your co-Christians has abused each other and us, if your faith fathers had separated you as much from Judaism, as Islam, history could have been more violent. Not much, maybe.
So your comment about anyone is a real Jew, who is right with G-d is as sustainable as Obama's Hawaii birth certificate. Would you say the same thing for a Shinto? I would say the person is behaving in a Christian way. I would not call the person a Christian; he or she is a Shinto.
Jameslee, Jews deal with ideas and concepts, but we are required to bring them to reality. Ideal is, G-d gave the Ten Words to Humanity, to us to make sure you-all don't skimp. Reality is; He knows we shall try to skimp. He gave us a way to deal with this; T'Shuva.
So James, start concentrating on being a good Christian. If it is to be as Jesus taught, the post I placed here on the Ten Commandments shall help any who are sincere.
I do not understand why you are saying these things. I am speaking from a Spiritual perspective; you are speaking from a material mindset. When it comes to Salvation and Blessings, it does not make a difference if you call yourself a Jew or a Christian and follow all the rituals and rules within your fellowship, or does it matter if you fellow the commandments and all the dictates within your Church or Temple or any other abode. Is insignificant rather you read the Bible or any other spiritual book in order to earn Blessings or Salvation. Has no bearing if you were born to Jewish or Christian or any other religious parents. What I have said is that Blessings and Salvation is given freely from God, not by works or obeying Him, they are not earned by works. Abraham believed God, God canceled his sins and he was made guiltless, SAVED BY FAITH, not by works or obeying Gods commandments. It is the same for the Christian, only by FAITH in Jesus the Christ can one be save. ONLY BY FAITH can one be right with God, not by works. You cannot please God without FAITH. Obeying the Commandments or doing according to all the rules of Judaism or Christianity or any other religion is useless without FAITH. It is only by FAITH that one can be right with God. Your are not a TRUE JEW if you are not right with God regardless of what you call yourself.
Jesus said, "Be passersby."
His disciples said to him, "Who are you to say these things to us?"
"You don't understand who I am from what I say to you.
Rather, you have become like the Jews, for they love the tree but hate its fruit, or they love the fruit but hate the tree."
I agree with your perspective on the Spiritual concept; you are comparable with the Torah if you do at least what is required in the Noahide Covenant. However, Ignorance, as you know, is not blessed.
Those I mentioned are among those we recognize as Righteous human beings. They knew and lived by ethical and moral standards.
However, although you may wish to see yourself as a Jew, fine, but it is only in the Spiritual perspective.
A good example of this in the Tanach is Jonah. He was what we call a Righteous Gentile. He believed in and worship HaShem. So you do not have to be Jewish to be a Prophet!
As for the Tree and the Fruit, we love both. Just recognize that sometimes the fruit may spoil, then we have to deal with it according to what we have. Here, again, the Tanach has the instructioins, and we follow them.
As for being right with G-d? Why He gave us T'Shuva, so we can stay right with Him. This I recommend one look up for more information.
Jameslee; at least you and others who are with G-d accept what He told us, and this is why we (Jews) are not allowed to accept any one or thing, except HaShem as he told us to. Your Jesus is different from what He allows us. Gentiles who have had the "Faith by Jesus" to be saved can do so, but we have HaShem, only.
It is by our Faith in Him that we stay true to Him. Accept another, and we (Jews) loose our salvation.
Just the Facts, Mon, as Joe Friday would say.
10 commandments are out of date. They have historical value but meaning to the faithful. Many are in prison. Fact is Moses like other people who meet with god always do it in some remote place in some region of illiterates who truly believe that bogus stuff.