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I have been married for almost 18 years and we have two children 9 & 7. My husband and I have been very happy until 7 years ago when he said I betrayed his trust! He dislike my sister [over some money problem] and he did not allow me to go into business with her. Becos in network marketing if I go under my sister it will benefit her, and he strongly objected to it. I needed the support of my sister and I went under her anyway. As I see it this is my business and he shouldn't interfere. When he found out that I lied to him 6 months later he was very angry! He even threatened divorce! He said I betrayed his trust and that he'll rather I had an affair than choose business over him? He was so crushed that he cried for a month when he was away at work [off shore drilling] He later told me it was because he knew he was loosing me! After that he became a hard person, angry and sarcastic. For three years I endured that hoping that he will forgive me. Then he told me he had an affair! I was devastated ofcourse, I trusted him completely. The next day we were leaving for a vacation to Spain, and over there we tore down the walls between us and started pouring our hearts out. I was in love again and the holiday was like our honeymoon! When we came back, he went to meet this girl to end the affair. She is half his age and work as a singer in a bar. He sent her back home to her country and promised to support her in her studies. He sends her money all the time and everytime she asked for it, The affair continued. He has to secretly meet her up before he comes home from work when he was offshore. I found out once and we had a big fight. Each time he said it is over but it never was. Then last January he told me that the girl was pregnant from him!! I was devastated! He saw her in October. I told him he has to choose. He can't have his cake and eat it too. He wanted to spend some time with the baby before coming back. So he agreed that there will be no contact but just financial support. When she gave birth to a full term baby in march, obviosly it wasn't his? [6 mths?] Later the DNA test confirmed negative. He was very crushed from this betrayal. Recently he went to break up with her, I guessed he feels like a fool, being used by her, cheated , lied and betrayed. He said he was naive and now he is very dissapointed in life? He has turned into a hard person again. He just told me the night before he left for work, that he is not happy with me and he can't go on like this. We have to do something about us, or get a divorce. He would also like to stay in the house if we divorce? He said he has lost the magic for me since I betrayed him! He cares for me but has no passion. As for me I was really relieved that this time around the affair was really over. And I was looking forward to having my marriage back but now this sad news! I am a forgiving person, and I don't hold grudges, infact he should be happy that he still has a family behind him after all that he has done to me. His big problem is he can't let go of his anger, or forgive me. He will recalled threats I said many years ago, and he will be angry with me over things I said to him before. He harbers his anger and do not communicate with me. I told him before that I cannot read his mind. He is a very good father and he loves our children dearly, and I believe in a family unit. He is now away for a month at work, and this is a good time for us to reflect . One positive thing about this sad news is that he is honest about it and is willing to talk. Instead of going for another affair, at least we can thrash our problems out now. When he is home, he stays for a month as holidays. It usually falls on the childrens holidays and we will go for a short vacation. We are always happy on holidays, and when he is offshore we communicate almost daily through email or when he phones, he sounded happy. So it is very hard for me to know how unhappy he is. Can we still save this marriage? I still love him. He is happy being around as a family, but do not love me. He is a very caring and a compasionate person. How do I bring out the man I married back? If we divorce he wants to stay in the same house for the childrem? I do not know how to deal on this? He said after two years [before the divorce is final] if we are still together then we will be together.

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While in most disagreements no party is totally 100% right and the other 100% wrong, in your case your husband must bear most of the blame. He needs counseling in order to reduce his domineering shown by anger or by threats of divorce or his opposition to your business venture. Right now he has been enjoying leading an immature type of life by exploiting. This immaturity prevents him from seeing how much he is about to lose by divorce. He must go for counseling.

June> I agree with Rock but more specifically... bc of his actions he is misdirecting his emotions... shame and guilt are very powerful... I believe he is trying to shift these feelings onto you for the situation with your business endeavor with your sister in order to blame and shame you into carrying his guilt and disloyalty.... anger is also a very powerful emotion... anger is usually a mask for hurt or guilt... when you beg forgiveness for the business you started with sis way back when... you are taking the blame and opening yourself up for his misdirected anger and shame... you are allowing him to divert the truth away from what it is and help him stay in a bubble of denial (excusing himself from his actions) obviously if he was able to forgive the home wrecker for baring another mans child... what you had done is nothing... it was an excuse for his actions he continues to run with... and you freely accept this bc you are desperate to hold on to him... you may feel if you put the right amount of accountablity on him he may just say... fine Im done... what you dont realize is that your actions are contributing (even if they are out of fear) to this cycle... I hate to break it to you but the same as our children... he needs to be held accountable... you have to be strong make very clear boundaries and follow thru... if not you are setting yourself up for a lifetime of cheating lying and insecurity... your children also... he doesnt and will not respect you... until you respect yourself... yes all of you can benifit from therapy to heal these wounds but first you need to stop this insanity... I would start the next time I spoke with him... while he's away is perfect... he expects you to be weak, desperate and clingy for the relationship... I would blow his mind... "Look I've had enough... I think of all you've put our relations and our fam thru and I'm done... NO you cant live here if we get a divorce... you cant continue to have your cake and eat it too while dragging us thru the mud... I think we both need to figure out what we want... I may not be the woman you dream of but you arent exactly my prince charming either... get your head out of your ass and think about things... I'll talk to you later... but be careful what you wish for you may end up getting it!..." click... believe me hunny he will think... and he may call back and call your bluff... but hold strong bc if you dont stand up for you and your kids... who will? Your worst enemy is litterally supposed to be the head of your house... he is the monster under the bed... but it's not only his fault... you are letting him... the reality is... your marriage may be over anyway... do you really want to try to hold on and cling to someone who has done these things to you out of fear? You'll love and respect yourself if you stand tall... I am woman hear me roar... it may even spark some attraction back... good luck:))

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I might be going on a limb here, but it feels to me like this whole relationship, or at least in it's current interaction is built on a really unhealthy pattern ofvery high adrenalin. It seems like it's made of constant criseses and drama. Everytime things seem to be calming down, something happened to make it go crazy again. I think you and your husband need to understand why you keep acting in this manner and what, on a relational level you gain out of it.

It seem to me like neither of you want to break up, but at the same time, neither of you know how to start driving this relationship out of the ditch you drove it into in the first place.

I think you should talk ot a marriage counceler and learn how to interact in a different way through couple therapy. If nothing else it'll teach you how to break up in a less devestating manner, and I think might also give you some tool to salvage your marriage.

 

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I don't think it was right that after 18 years of marriage you lied to your husband and started a business with your sister behind his back.  How did you expect him to feel tht you kept this a secret for 6 months knowing he and your sister do not get along?  You, in fact, did choose your sister over him, and this started the ball rolling.  I don't agree with the way he handled the situation, because what seems like two people who do care for each other and a nice family, is now a mess and anxiety ridden.  There is alot of manipulation going on here by both of you.  Get a reference for a good marriage counselor and seek help immediately to see if anything can be resolved.  What a tangled web we weave.

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OK, let me see - He was in control of the world for 10 years. He was happy, and participated in the family when he was home from the rig. Then, he left you to run the house, and tidy up; while he went back to his other world. You have children, and take care of them, and - Well; then it's your turn, because you start to awake; as an individual. So, you make a plan; and ask him. He says no, based on his distrust. now, he might have had a point. If he did, and it was a discussion; then he could have helped you figure out another course of action. Or, since it is a business venture; then you map it out strategically. Being partners, you should give, and take; work together. Maybe you rebelled. Maybe, you decided you were tired of being told what to do. Maybe, your sister said not to listen to him. You did lie to him, which isn't good. This made him tell you it would have been better if you had an affair, and ... he cried for a month (On the rig)? Hmm. And he was losing you (Control over you), and he threatened divorce (But didn't do it); and screwed someone else (Had an affair)? Oh, and you stayed. And he did it again. And you stayed. and he supported this other woman, and...

Oh; and if you all are still together in 2 years; you will stay together.

So - First; being a Supervisor/Operator of commercial pipe crews: You don't last long, with the guys, if you are crying. That's ruled out. Did the business do well?

You need him; and he does make good money, But, you want to be an individual. Just remember - he's the boss. that's what it says in the Home Ec book of the 1950's.

What's best for the kids? If you split up; they won't see him as much. But then, they don't see him as much now. He doesn't do their homework fulltime. He doesn't make them do their chores, or deal all the little growing up things - dramas, sports, hobbies.

YOU need to talk to a counsellor, and look at your self esteem. Then, when you have more faith, and love for yourself - decide if you want to keep being abused. You may have made some poor choices; but they were choices towards a positive goal - to grow as a human being, and to help provide for the family. And yes, you went against his wishes, and deceived him. His poor choices were self-centered; vindictive, demoralizing. And yes; he went against your wishes, and screwed someone else. Then, took money away from the family, to provide for this other woman.

I say - Get yourself together; and take care of the kids. Talk to someone. And after you do  - The next time he comes home for holiday, tell him you've made an appointment for the both of you with a marriage counsellor. If he says no; then that pretty much tells you which way the 2 year hurdle he has set for you will go. He has made up his mind; so you need to, too. Since you are beat up on the inside, this might be hard to do, but you can do it.

I did.

If my kids have a good life, I will be happy

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