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In which verse did Jesus said that till now thiefs and murderes were able to inherat the kingdom of god

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I thought I knew my Bible fairly well, but I did not find the verse that you are referring to. Perhaps someone can help.

To say nothing, especially when speaking, is half the art of diplomacy.

"In which verse did Jesus say that thieves and murderes are able to inherit the kingdom of God"

I think this is a trick question. I think milimoje wants us to search and learn that there is no verse that says that unrepentant thieves and murderers are able to inherit the kingdom of God.

But that does not mean they won't eventually be saved. After they experience the lake of fire which is the second death they will no longer be unrepentant thieves and murderers and will be saved by Jesus Christ.

You may ask, “What scriptural evidence is there of being saved out of the lake of fire which is the second death?"

There actually is much evidence.

Although the book of Revelation is the last book placed in the Bible, it is not the final revelation of what God is going to do with humanity. The apostle Paul saw way beyond John.

Col.1:25 of which I became a dispenser, in accord with the administration of God, which is granted to me for you, to complete the word of God

There is much evidence that Paul did see way beyond John. For instance, in Revelation there are still kings reigning, and Christ is still reigning along with His followers. There are still sovereignties and powers in force throughout the book of revelation. So John did not see the day when all sovereignty, authority and power would be done away. Paul did. If you will look at 1Corinthians 15:24-28 Paul saw the day when all of these would be done away. He sees the day when "He should be nullifying all sovereignty, authority and power" (vs.24)

Paul sees the day when Christ will quit reigning (vs.25).

Paul sees the day when death (all death which includes the second death) will be abolished (vs.26). Please remember that death will be abolished **after** all the sovereignties, authorities and powers in Revelation have been nullified. Within the book of Revelation, death is still operational as are the afore mentioned powers.

So what is going to happen to all these people who are in death when death is abolished?

They will come forth vivified (made alive beyond the reach of death) (1Cor.15:22).

They will have their lives justified and will be constituted righteous:

Romans 5:18 Consequently, then, as it was through one offense for all mankind for condemnation, thus also it is through one just award for all mankind for life's justifying.
Romans 5:19 For even as, through the disobedience of the one man, the many were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One, the many shall be constituted just.

All will be reconciled to God (Col.1:20)

All will be headed up in Christ (Eph.1:10)

All will bow the knee in the name of Jesus and acclaim with their tongue that "Jesus Christ is Lord" to the glory of God, the Father (Phil.2:9-11).
And we know that anyone who acclaims that Jesus Christ is Lord, especially when it is to God's glory without any hypocrisy is saved for 1Corinthians 12:3 says so.

So there is proof that people will go to the second death **when ** the new earth comes. And there is proof that this is not the final goal God has for these people.

In summary then:
The lake of fire is the second death.
The apostle John did not see into the future as far as the apostle Paul.
How do I know this? and what ramifications does this have as to whether or not one gets out of the lake of fire...the second death? Plenty.
In the book of revelation Christ is still reigning; death is still operational; sovereignties, authorities and powers are still in force.
In 1Cor.15:22-28 Paul sees way beyond John's revelation.
He sees the day when Christ will quit reigning (1Cor.15:25).
He sees the day when all sovereignties, authorities and powers are nullified (1Cor.15:24).
He sees the day when death is abolished (1Cor.15:26) and all are then subjected to Christ then Christ is subjected to God and then God is All in all (1Cor.15:28).
So, yes, there is scripture which intimates that all in the lake of fire will come forth and God will be All in all.
Also in 1Cor.15:22 all are dying and in Christ shall all be vivified. So this happens after death for most.
Also in Romans 5:18,19 you have what happens to all mankind due to what Adam did which happens to the exact same all mankind due to what Christ did. But it does not happen to all at the exact same time.
Each in his own order.

 

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“God’s purposes are so vast and glorious, beyond all guessing now, that when they are achieved and consummated, all our sufferings and sorrows of today, even the agonies that nearly break our faith, the disasters that well nigh overwhelm us, shall, seen from that fair country where God’s age long dreams come true, bulk as little as bulk now the pieces of a broken toy upon a nursery floor, over which, thinking that all our little world was in ruins, we cried ourselves to sleep.” Dr. Leslie Weatherhead

Hi! Just cruising through and I noted your question as well as the fact that it hadn't been answered; it may be too late to make an observation, but I suspect it wasn't answered because, although close to 2 scriptural incidents, the quote itself is wrong and I'm wondering whether someone repeated it to you incorrectly or you simply remembered it incorrectly. The first scene was a discussion of who John the Baptist was in the Kingdom of heaven, and the verse that follows-similar to the one you used, reads "From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been suffering violence (also translated "advancing forcefully"), and the violent have been seizing it by force." (Matt. 11:12). It's a difficult passage to understand, but read in context I believe it means that after John the Baptist came to announce the advent of the Kingdom (and before Jesus' sacrifice made salvation readily available to any who would accept it) only those forcefully interested, determined to attain the Kingdom by grasping onto and following John's and Jesus' teachings were attaining the Kingdom previously only promised by the prophets and the Jewish Law. The second incident was set as a confrontation between Jesus and the Pharisees, who in their judgemental religiosity were constantly attempting to trap Jesus into breaking their 'laws' and driving others away from an intimate knowledge of their loving Heavenly Father, Yehovah God. Jesus pointed the fact out to them that all their pious hypocrisy was insincere, unclean in Father God's eyes in its pride and deliberate misuse of their calling to attain social status and power over men, 'using' God their Abba Father (in whom they had no true belief or their attitudes would have been much more humble and their worship sincere) to get it. "Tax collectors and prostitutes are entering the Kingdom of heaven before you do!" Jesus threw at them, reminding them of their truly low state in Father God's eyes. We are saved in God's eyes not by our pretences at perfection and righteousness, but only by acknowledging our sinfulness before Yehovah God and accepting His grace in the sacrificial payment of our sin debt the Lord Jesus provided so that we could start out new, 'born again' in the Spirit and determined to live the rest of our lives FOR FATHER GOD and to please Him rather than ourselves...a 'relationship thing' with the 'Lover of our souls.' The Pharisees didn't want it orbelieve in it, but murderers, prostitutes and tax collectors (who were often thieves who preyed on their own people and regarded as unclean in Jesus' society) very well might! In the future it might be helpful for you to look up bible passages by entering "Bible Gateway" into your search engine, as they have a wonderful verse/passage/subject lookup and offer other resources to aid your bible study, particularly helpful if you don't have a bible with a concordance in it. Your question was close enough to the quotes to make me think it may have been one of these incidents you had in mind, and if it has any relevence to anyone reading it today I apoligize because my timing is terrible but Father God is still glorified! :)

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