H5N1 Virus (are we being kept in the dark for nefarious reasons?)

You can read the very latest from this web site.  The whole truth and nothing but the truth. Trust me.

Thanks Kibbutz,

I have been following the potential pandemic for many years now. It is and always has been my belief that the press has kept the American Public in the dark for a reason. What my friend is that reason? I think I know.

I was playing golf with one of the Under Secretary's of Homeland defense two years ago. I asked him point blank what he thought the biggest threat to the homeland. His answer, "The Bird Flu." I then asked what I thought was a good question and that was why are we being kept in the dark, and further why are we not at least making preparations for a potential pandemic. His answer, not surprising, was, "We are, at the government level." Does that surprise anyone? Thanks for the web site I will check it out. One site I visit on a daily basis is www.birdflubreakingnews.com. It to is up to date within 5 minutes of real time.

Trapper

Interesting site that you referenced. Our neighbors to the west (Egypt) have had several deaths as a result of bird flu.

Hey Tanya,

Wow, don't fire me. Have had a lot on the plate.

Thanks for all of the information.

Here is what really scares me. I have been watching the H5N1 for several years now. Nasty virus to say the least. Swine flu, normal, but virulant. I said two years ago, that in order for a mutation to occur there would need to be an introduction of another medium. I hope that it is not the H1. However, logic says to me that it is possible???

The other component, and this is what we have been discussing, is how the media is, or in this case QUIT reporting on the Swine. What have the idiots done? If this thing takes on another mutation, does become deadly, the public is now can to say, "It is just another media blitz over nothing."

NOW the true question is, "Is this what Obama and company want? Another crisis to TAKE advantage of???" You can bet your ass they do. The death rate on the H5 is sitting at about 60%+-. What better way to take over a disinfranchised nation? You tell me.

The last thing is that History repeats itself. Back in the 30's we had the depression along with another natural disaster, the Dustbowl drought. Two years from now when the market crashes, "IF the market crashes sounds better", then this would complete the circle.

I do not want to sound like some crazy old hippy, but I have practiced the art of meditation for years. On a scale of 1 to 10, I am a 4. But, on occasion I do go deep. This was the case Friday morning. When you achieve a union with the mind and you are searching for, (It is hard to put into words) logic/understanding of self, I guess is close enough. Some days are better than others, and for some reason I got DEEP on Friday. I am not Spocking out on you, but it is a great way to think, understand, relax, and quite frankly to achieve inner peace. I have learned how to THROW OUT THE GARBAGE this way. Now that I have gotten completely off topic I will tell you that on Friday morning I felt an anxiety vs. a peace, that I have never felt. I can usually get rid of the negative feelings. Damn this is hard to explain. I directed  my thoughts into the future, and simply let my mind go. Where it went, based on what I know and feel, did not make me feel well about the future and what is happening.  Thats all I am going to say, as I think it is much easier to do than to explain.

Bottom line, this could complete the circle, and it could get nasty. Can we prepare? Oh yes. Is this crazy? I think not. Let me know your thoughts.

Trapper

Hi Trapper!

Miss and I were just discussing all of this so please forgive me for adding my understanding and reasoning. Infectious disease and genetics can be a way to put all that has happened within viral mutations into a reasonable prospective. With the advent of antibiotics, the 'natural predator' of the virus was eliminated. Bacteria kept the virus population controlled via physiology.  

Viruses mutate very quickly and it is their common integral property -- each year's flu vaccination is at least two years outdated. If you maintain a yearly vaccination, they will be components that are still effective. I became 'intimately acquainted' with the 2009 outbreak of N1H1H  -- I know that exposure was via personal contact (not laboratory contamination) because the first cases in Texas  were in this area. The symptoms were mild and I stayed in isolation. My own vaccinations include other variables. 

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/outbreaks/current.htm This is one of the most comprehensive sites to follow and it will give you other links to help understand H5N1.

http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/qa.htm  is current and also has links to WHO.

This is far more interesting than three fussy kitties but they are becoming impossible to ignore! I hope you can understand!?!

Back later, umm?

honey

hs

Reading back!

1976 but it was at Ft. Dix . . . one of the reasons that there are so many questions and answers is the advancement in computer technology and ease of access to the Internet ~

hs

Hi
 
Here is a good reference about pandemics and the way they are classified:
 
http://www.pandemicflu.gov/general/historicaloverview.html
 
Kitty care has been accomplished . . . back to the reality of the viruses and that innate ability to mutate in a comparatively short time period.
 
What is 'THE FLU?' Basically the flu is a viral infection that belongs to Influenza Type A. The recognition of the variables are referenced as atypical or subtype . . . easiest way to categorize within the knowledge base is by using a specific designation such as H1N1 or H5N1. Another easy reference is hepatitis . . . A, B, C, D and so it continues. The advent of the electron-microscope brought a powerful instrument that continues to be upgraded so that even a slight change in the genetic sequencing can be found.
 
Herpes?
herpes simplex HSV-1/HSV-2 . . . HSV1 effects all 'mucous membrane' type tissue.
HSV-2 is referred to as the sexually transmitted type.
Herpes zoster is the virus that causes chickenpox. The virus can live, but remain inactive, in the  body for many years. If it becomes active again, usually later in life, the chickenpox virus causes Shingles.
 
HIV/AIDS? [note the 'H' designation] Realistically, there is a history that can be traced to well before it became a diagnosis as such. One can be HIV positive but not develop AIDS.
 
Ebola hemorrhagic fever (Ebola HF)?http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/Spb/mnpages/dispages/ebola/qa.htm
 
I am trying to help with understanding the components that are variables within a virus. If you already know all of this, I learned form that word 'assuming.'
 
Would you think that it would be necessary to explain that the foil wrapper needed to be removed from a vaginal suppository? How about taking a 'rectal' suppository by mouth? Birth control pills are to be taken by mouth and not used as a vaginal suppository! It was a very difficult year and I can honestly say that grape jelly is on my list of 'least favorites.'

H5N1? Avian Flu but why the name 'avian?' H1N1?  Swine Flu but why the name 'swine?' This is usually the result of a 'jump species' . . . directly contagious to humans that come into contact with the infected animal and then mutates so that it replicates into another category that allows the virus to become directly contagious among humans. These two viruses are basically a 'pandemic' within that definition all over the world BUT NOT directly to humans. Remember that the concept of good hygiene and crowded living space need to be considered when there is another outbreak of human to human infection.
 
There are too many misconceptions about the difference between 'possibility' and 'probability' . . . think of the Internet as just what it is: world wide web. National Security created the 'web' for a reason and a way to protect the ability to connect point A to any other point without having to use a sequence, i.e. point A to point B to point C. It was a way to bypass the system if one area lost the ability to connect with the next one in the sequence.
 
Add the political situation and we need to ask about the economic crisis in Europe. Is it a reflection of the economic instability in the United States or is there a deeper meaning with a plan of action? Bilderberg  Alliance and the history involved is very real -- it exists but what for what REASON? New World Order? What do we know and what questions are being answered?  
 
What does your question about H5N1 have to do with the Bilderberg Alliance and our National Security as a country?
 
Who am I? A single individual that was limited by the rule of  'Three Whys' . . . each question I asked was answered but that only gave enough information for another question!  Jewish with strong ties to Israel, Army Brat whose father was an officer in the Signal Corps and an Army wife . . . my older son's father was a Military Intelligence officer and an interrogator in Vietnam. He was based in Saigon but was in the field with Recon units for seventeen months of an eighteen month tour of duty. Five years later, I married another physician (surgeon) that was in the Army. Military history/medicine? My Yedda profile is simple and honest. I learned the Oriental ways when I first met my father in Japan . . . three years of another culture that I came to understand. When asked my age, the answer is simple: "As young as babe new born and as old as Time Immortal."
 
hs
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Once again thanks Tanya. You to Honey.

The best site out there is ProMed-Ahead. This will tell you each day what is happening with all of the major virus's.

I was just in a Barnes and Nobels trying to find a book on Windmills for the Home, (Not to be found), for our home in the Outer Banks. Hint, this is going to be big I think. Pricing is coming down. But, while I was there I scanned the book about the Greatest Depression by Celente. What can I say? He has been dead on his projections by his study of trends. I think my windmill will come in handy one day. I hope not, but??? I had rather have and not need, than to need and not have! Plus if the information I got on Friday was accurate we should be able to save about 60 to 80 percent on the old electric bill???? Who knows, but I will keep you posted on my research.

Also, I will be back in Florida next week where my Mac Book is, and I will forward some very interesting information that I have collected on the old H5N1. NO, not the conspiracy stuff, but you know like real infomation in prep work, survival, and projections. Interesting stuff.

Why am I doing all this stuff. Why else? Love of family.

Once again thanks ladies for the information.

Trapper