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Politics has been defined as the art of determining who your enemy is. Based upon this do we have a true political process in the USA, because it seems to me that the political leaders in DC are all ...

Michael Joel Held Answered:

Dear Mr. Wells, And I use the term lightly. Many have tired to overthrow this government and none has been capable of doing it until possibly now. It appears to me that you do wish to overthrow this government. That was the reason for the Civil War when the South, who I believed to be Constitutionally correct, tried but failed.

"As George Wallace used to say before they shot him and by which he gained a lot of support and votes, “there’s not a dimes worth of difference between them!” If it was true fifty years ago, how much truer is it today?"

I am happy for you that you liked George Wallace, but his day has come and gone. Do you wish to try the revolution that you speak about? Won't work it has been tried before and failed. Unless YOU can figure a way to mount a giant force and attack the White House, the Pentagon, the Secret Service, and the list goes on and on.

RonaldV, explain the futility of such language. Where it will lead? You are one hundered percent right. It is a shame that so many on this site believe that they can "pull it off." Michael Joel Held

Posted 3 years ago

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, Establish Justice,; insure domestic Tranquility, to provide for the common defense, to promote the general Welare, and to Secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and to our Posterity, do ordain and establish the Constitution of the United States of America.

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Rocmike3

Only fascists approve of the fascist government we suffer now. Held is one of the angriest and coldest of those self-documented fascists.

Obamacare is not new. Its concept, of which Held wildly approves, is nothing more or less than this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4

Michael Joel Held

I am whatever you call me, but I still support Obama. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Maybe you should smoke something you ignorant fool. Michael Joel Held

OdintheANTIGENOCIDEwhiterabbit Thinks this answer is Helpful:

Held, What I am pointing out is that politics should really identify who we are and who is not like us. In that way we can identify our true interests and support them. I see the process today about a one party system that really prevents us for standing for our true interests.

Ethnopolitcs destroys the game that is being played against us. Withdrawal into our own pursuits and interests would be the best. As it is written"..life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

The berlin wall feel not by force but by public opinion. I'm suggesting the creation of awarenss to create public opinion which will destabilize the system. the issue of white genocide can be key in this.

www.whiteextinction.wordpress.com

RonaldV Thinks this answer is Helpful:

Mr Wells I can agree with your thoughts, mainly about the one party system we now face. All politions should be held up to the promises they make. There should be away to know if they have at least tryed to fulfill them.

In almost all canditates the people have no chose, because the canditates are chosen by their party. And due to money constrates a third or forth party candidate has to be wealthy, the middle class and the poor do not have the money it takes just to get on a ballot much less run a fifty state campain.

This last election season has me believing I won't be voting for party or candidate only on thie issues, even though is the party assembles want an issue to pass they will do so in their sessions.

Thus leaving me and many others to pray for a final solution, being the return of Christ Jesus. As you know many, including me, believe we are in the last days and His return is imminate. There are only a few propheses left to be full filled.

Michael Joel Held

George Well, As I apologized for what I said, I was man enough to do that. Many on this site, once you read them throughly, will remind you how immature they truly are. If someone has something to say, let them say it. Rockmike said, "Only fascists approve of the fascist government we suffer now. Held is one of the angriest and coldest of those self-documented fascists. Obamacare" Do you see what I mean about the bunch of them. They don't want an exchange of knowledge, but just to incite the rest of us. By the way, there is still a two party system in the US, but the Republicans are so disorganized that they will never be able to mount a Presidential Campaign. If this is what RonV is referring to, he is wrong. Name one or two people who have the capacity to ruun for political office? So, we come down to the nitty gritty. Show me a Republican that is not only willing to run, but who has the intelligence. Change the perty of "No" to the party of "Yes" or you will not be able to win an election. Michael Joel Held

OdintheANTIGENOCIDEwhiterabbit Thinks this answer is Helpful:

RonaldV, if all men stood by the truth and actually had the truth I would be confident that good would come. I posted somewhere that politics was the art of determining who your enemies are.

In one of the parables the disciples come to Jesus and point out that there are tares among the wheat. Jesus said His Father had planted the wheat and that an enemy had done this.

I see the two parties as controlled by tares.

My suggestion is that we separate and build our own society.

OdintheANTIGENOCIDEwhiterabbit Thinks this answer is Helpful:

RonaldV, wolves in sheeps clothing also apply. The mass of sheep are really in the center - they are not revolutionaries. They accept life as it is. The left-right spectrum paradigm puts the fascists to the right and the communists/socialists to the left. Both sides struggle to pull away the sheep. What the left-right bloodbrothers do is hide their true nature behind words.

Ethnopolitics to me is more in conformity to reality - those with the most in common bonding together.

OdintheANTIGENOCIDEwhiterabbit Thinks this answer is Helpful:

Michael Held, thank you. These posts only give us a picture of the person posting. Its a pot pourri. People are seeking answers to alot of things by expressing themselves and getting various responses. To a large extent it is entertainment and possibly a way to find ones self.

the question comes down to whether or not we are able to incorporate all the factual or true information into our philosophy of living or not. If we can't accept all the facts assuming we have facts, we need to look at ourselves and change our ability to be one with reality. This takes time. Its a long process.

I don't take anyone too seriously because they are liable to change. When you change, your opponent tends to be defeated by himself.