Does Jesus say that he is God's witness and God is ...

Does Jesus say that he is God's witness and God is his witness. If so, what does it mean?

 

Also, Did Jesus say something like whoever comes after him is not of him? What did he mean. Would that mean that Paul's teachings would not be of Jesus?

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No Jesus didn't say that he is God's witness, he said God is his witness.

 

No Jesus didn't say whoever comes after him is not of him.

I'm so glad Jesus Died for me.

It is the MISunderstanding of us humans about JESUS being GOD or the SON of GOD and making this factor as the center of our belief in JESUS and replacing Jesus with GOD in our understanding which is why today GOD has forsaken all of us. JESUS has never said or impled directly or indirectly that he is GOD. That would be BLASPHEMY and a pure soul like Jesus could not have offended God by saying such a proclaim. GOD has no wife and has not ever begotten so how can he have a SON? JESUS was and is and will be the HOLY SPIRIT. The blessed one. JESUS is the SOUL by GOD but not GOD. God has no form containable or imaginable and yet all things God created are the imaginations of the image that GOD created. GOD JUST HAS TO SAY “BE” and it shall be. Only GOD knows all things. God is the doer of all things known and unknown. BUT GOD HAS NOT BEGOTTEN. GOD IS OMNIPRESENT AND NOT ANY MATTER OR MATERIAL. TO IMAGINE THAT GOD COULD BEGET IS A SIN. Jesus never proclaimed to be born of GOD or from GOD so he was as much the son of GOD or the child of God as much are we the followers of Jesus' teachings. Yes all those who believe in GOD without any doubts are the children of GOD and because JESUS did so HE said and was the son of GOD but not in the literal sense known to mankind. This is how it was understood by mankind. And even then JESUS was watched by the world being crucified by the tyrant ones. therefore Jesus said “MY GOD, MY GOD WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME”. It was this understanding of the common man that JESUS was GOD or the SON of God which was the biggest threat for the rulers of that era for if that was left to spread. then that belief would very soon make Jesus more powerful than all the kings and emperors. Therefore Jesus had to be finished by them just like the prophets before him like Prophet JOHN THE BAPTIST.Jesus was punished for common man’s wrong understanding. GOD does not RE-INCARNATE. God just says "BE" and it will be. God appoints subjects and messengers and prophets and messiahs to spread the word and to teach people about the KINGDOM of GOD.

Dear Sanjay,

 

I really don’t know where to start. But you are misinformed. Time will not permit me to show you all the scriptures that prove that you are wrong. Jesus said.

 

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

 

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

 

Jesus was not the Holy Spirit, because he said that he would send you another Comforter, not the same.

 

The Bible says.

 

1 John 5:6-8

This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

 

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

 

Jesus Is God (1 John 5:6-10)

In 1 John 5:1-5, emphasis is placed on trusting Jesus Christ. A person who trusts Christ is born of God and is able to overcome the world. To believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God is basic to Christian experience.

But how do we know that Jesus Christ is God? Some of His contemporaries called Him a liar and a deceiver (Matt 27:63). Others have suggested He was a religious fanatic, a madman, or perhaps a Jewish patriot who was sincere but sadly mistaken. The people to whom John was writing were exposed to a popular false teaching that Jesus was merely a man on whom "the Christ" had come when Jesus was baptized. On the cross, "the Christ" left Jesus ("My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?") and so He died Like any other human being.

John's epistle refutes this false teaching. It presents three infallible witnesses to prove that Jesus is God.

First witness - the water. Jesus came "by water and blood." The water refers to His baptism in Jordan when the Father spoke from heaven and said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" (Matt 3:13-17). At the same time the Spirit descended Like a dove and rested on Him. This was the Father's attestation of His Son at the beginning of Jesus' ministry.

Second witness - the blood. But the Father gave further witness as the time drew near for Jesus to die. He spoke audibly to Jesus from heaven, and said, "I have both glorified [My name], and will glorify it again" (John 12:28). Furthermore, the Father witnessed in miracle power when Jesus was on the cross: the supernatural darkness, the earthquake, and the rending of the temple veil (Matt 27:45,50-53). No wonder the centurion cried out, "Truly this was the Son of God!" (Matt 27:54)

Jesus did not receive "the Christ" at His baptism and lose it at the cross. On both occasions, the Father witnessed to the deity of His Son.

Third witness - the Spirit. The Spirit was given to bear witness to Christ (John 15:26; 16:14). We can trust the Spirit's witness because "the Spirit is truth" We were not present at the baptism of Christ or at His death, but the Holy Spirit was present. The Holy Spirit is the only Person active on earth today who was present when Christ was ministering here. The witness of the Father is past history, but the witness of the Spirit is present experience. The first is external, the second is internal - and both agree.

How does the Spirit witness within the heart of a believer? "For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which we cry out, 'Abba! Father!' The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God" (Rom 8:15-16, NASB). His witness is our inner confidence that we belong to Christ - not a confidence that we "work up" for ourselves, but a confidence that God gives us.

The Spirit also witnesses to us through the Word. As we read God's Word, He speaks to us and teaches us. This is not true of an unsaved man (1 Cor 2:14); it is true only of a believer.

A Christian feels "at home" with God's people because the Spirit dwells in him. This is another way the Spirit bears witness.

The Law required two or three witnesses for a matter to be settled (Deut 19:15). The Father witnessed at the baptism and at the cross, and the Spirit witnesses today within the believer. The Spirit, the water, and the blood settle the matter: Jesus is God.

(Most scholars agree that 1 John 5:7 of the Authorized Version does not belong in the letter, but omitting it does not affect the teaching at all.)

We receive the witness of men, so why should we reject the witness of God?

People often say, "I wish I could have faith!" But everybody lives by faith! All day long, people trust one another. They trust the doctor and the pharmacist; they trust the cook in the restaurant; they even trust the fellow driving in the other lane on the highway. If we can trust men, why can we not trust God? And not to trust Him is to make Him a har!

Jesus is God: this is the first Christian certainty, and it is foundational to everything else.

 

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8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

 

  1 John 5:8

And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

[And there are three that bear witness in earth] This is a part of the text, which, if the reasoning above is correct, is to be omitted. The genuine passage reads, (1 John 5:7), "For there are three that bear record (or witness, ‎marturountes‎) - the Spirit, and the water, and the blood." There is no reference to the fact that it is done "in earth." The phrase was introduced to correspond with what was said in the interpolated passage, that there are three that bear record "in heaven."

[The Spirit] Evidently the Holy Spirit. The assertion here is, that that Spirit bears witness to the fact that Jesus is the Son of God, 1 John 5:5. The testimony of the Holy Spirit to this fact is contained in the following things:

(1) He did it at the baptism of Jesus. Notes, Matt 3:16-17.

(2) Christ was eminently ENDOWED with the influences of the Holy Spirit; as it was predicted that the Messiah would be, and as it was appropriate he should be, Isa 11:2; 61:1. Compare Luke 4:18; Notes, John 3:34.

(3) The Holy Spirit bore witness to his Messiahship, after his ascension, by descending, according to his promise, on his apostles, and by accompanying the message which they delivered with saving power to thousands in Jerusalem, Acts 2.

(4) He still bears the same testimony on every revival of religion, and in the conversion of every individual who becomes a Christian, convincing them that Jesus is the Son of God. Compare John 16:14-15.

(5) He does it in the hearts of all true Christians, for "no man can say that Jesus is Lord but by the Holy Ghost," 1 Cor 12:3. See the notes at that passage.

The Spirit of God has thus always borne witness to the fact that Jesus is the Christ, and he will continue to do it to the end of time, convincing yet countless millions that he was sent from God to redeem and save lost people.

[And the water] See the notes at 1 John 5:6. That is, the baptism of Jesus, and the scenes which occurred when he was baptized, furnished evidence that he was the Messiah. This was done in these ways:

(1) It was proper that the Messiah should be baptized when he entered on his work, and perhaps it was expected; and the fact that he was baptized showed that he had "in fact" entered on his work as Redeemer. See the notes at Matt 3:15.

(2) An undoubted attestation was then furnished to the fact that he was "the Son of God," by the descent of the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove, and by the voice that addressed him from heaven, Matt 3:16-17.

(3) His baptism with water was an emblem of the purity of his own character, and of the nature of his religion.

(4) Perhaps it may be implied here, also, that water used in baptism now bears witness to the same thing,

(a) as it is the ordinance appointed by the Saviour;

(b) as it keeps up his religion in the world;

(c) as it is a public symbol of the purity of his religion;

(d) and as, in every case where it is administered, it is connected with the public expression of a belief that Jesus is the Son of God.

[And the blood] There is undoubted allusion here to the blood shed on the cross; and the meaning is, that that blood bore witness also to the fact that he was the Son of God. This it did in the following respects:

(1) The shedding of the blood showed that he was truly dead-that his work was complete-that he died in "reality," and not in "appearance" only. See the notes at John 19:34-35.

(2) The remarkable circumstances that attended the shedding of this blood-the darkened sun, the earthquake, the rending of the veil of the temple-showed in a manner that convinced even the Roman centurion that he was the Son of God. See the notes at Matt 27:54.

(3) The fact that an "atonement" was thus made for sin was an important "witness" for the Saviour, showing that he had done that which the Son of God only could do, by disclosing a way by which the sinner may be pardoned, and the polluted soul be made pure.

(4) Perhaps, also, there MAY be here an allusion to the Lord's Supper, as designed to set forth the shedding of this blood; and the apostle may mean to have it implied that the representation of the shedding of the blood in this ordinance is intended to keep up the conviction that Jesus is the Son of God. If so, then the general sense is, that that blood-however set before the eyes and the hearts of people-on the cross, or by the representation of its shedding in the Lord's Supper-is a witness in the world to the truth that Jesus is the Son of God, and to the nature of his religion. Compare the notes at 1 Cor 11:26.

[And these three agree in one] ‎eis ‎‎to ‎‎hen ‎‎eisin‎. They agree in one thing; they bear on one and the same point, to wit, the fact that Jesus is the Son of God. All are appointed by God as witnesses of this fact; and all harmonize in the testimony which is borne. The apostle does not say that there are no other witnesses to the same thing; nor does he even say that these are the most important or decisive which have been furnished; but he says that these are important witnesses, and are entirely harmonious in their testimony. 

Is Jesus God? An important testimony to Christ's deity is found in the words of the writer of Hebrews as he contrasts Jesus to the angels. Whereas the angels are servants, the Son has a more significant status. In Heb 1:8 the writer prefaces his Old Testament quotations with the statement "But of the Son He says ... " Everything that follows refers to the Son. He quotes Ps 45:6, stating, "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever." The Son is called the eternal God. In verse 9 he states, "Therefore God, Thy God, hath anointed Thee." The first reference to "God" refers to the Son whereas the second refers to the Father. God the Father has anointed God the Son as King, as Messiah. In verse 10 the writer comments, "Thou, Lord, in the beginning didst lay the foundation of the earth." Here Jesus is called Lord (Yahweh), Creator of the universe who alone is eternal (v. 11). The statements "O God," "therefore God," and, "Thou Lord" refer to the Son mentioned in verse 8. Three times the Son is explicitly addressed as God in Heb 1:8-10. That Jesus is God could not be clearer.

In the Upper Room, following the resurrection, Thomas recognized Jesus as the risen Lord and exclaimed, "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28). Having been convinced that Jesus had risen from the dead, Thomas was also convinced that Jesus was Lord and God. If Jesus were not God He should have rebuked Thomas—but He didn't; He accepted the accolade. The Jehovah's Witnesses suggest that Thomas was simply swearing!

Thomas wasn't swearing. God gave him spiritual insight to see that Jesus was indeed all He claimed to be. Jesus is God. To those who do not believe He says, "Be not unbelieving, but believing" (John 20:27b).

 

 

JESUS IS CALLED YAHWEH

If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved. (Rom 10:9)

While at St. Helena, Napoleon was struck that millions were ready to die for the crucified Nazarene who founded a spiritual empire by love, whereas no one would die for Alexander or Caesar or himself, who founded a temporal empire by force. In that Napoleon saw a convincing argument for the deity of Christ, declaring, "I know, and I tell you, men, Christ was not a man. Everything about Christ astonished me. There is no comparison between him and any other being. He stands single and alone" (Schaff, 1:110). The doctrine that Jesus is God is the bedrock of Christianity.

While chatting with my Saturday morning visitor, we discussed Rom 10:9-13. Verse 9 reads, "That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord ... " Paul was referring to a Christian confession that believers would make; as such, the statement belongs in quotation marks: "Jesus is Lord." What is the meaning of Lord? Does it only mean that He is our Master? No, it means much more. "Lord" is the New Testament equivalent of the Old Testament Yahweh, or Jehovah. No one can make that confession or understand its truth without being born by the Spirit, because "no one can say, 'Jesus is Lord,' except by the Holy Spirit" (1 Cor 12:3).

When Jesus came to Jerusalem for the Passover Feast, John notes that He performed many signs, yet the people refused to believe in Him, like the people in Isaiah's day. But John notes, "These things Isaiah said, because he saw His glory and spoke of Him" (John 12:41). Whose glory? Christ's! That is the context. John saw Christ's glory, but the reference is to Isa 6, where Isaiah saw "the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted" (v. 1). Isaiah saw the glory of the exalted Jesus, enthroned as Yahweh in heaven.

That Jesus is none other than Yahweh of the Old Testament is a truth that God wants all people to know. It is His desire that "every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord" (Phil 2:11). Have you acknowledged Jesus as Lord God and submitted to His authority?

Immanuel is one of the names that Jesus is called by. Immanuel is a grand word. "God with us" means more than tongue can tell. It means enmity removed on our part, and justice vindicated on God's part. It means the whole Godhead engaged on our side, resolved to bless us.

But you say to me, "Who is this? Are you sure that Immanuel is Jesus of Nazareth?" Yes, Jesus is Immanuel. Will you turn to Matt 1:21, and read onward, "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying: Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us" Matt 1:21 Do you see this? They call his name Jesus to fulfil the prophecy that they should call his name Immanuel! It is a singular fulfillment surely. It can only be accounted for by the fact that the Holy Spirit regards the name "Jesus" as being tantamount to the name "Immanuel." The Saviour is God with us. Jesus, a Saviour, is, in the Hebrew, Joshua, or Jehoshua, that is Jehovah saving. The sense is the same as that of Immanuel, or "God with us," or for us; since God for us is sure to save us. The two names are the same in essential meaning. If God has come to save, then God is with us; if God himself is our salvation, then God is on our side; and if the child born of the virgin be indeed the Lord of glory, then is God our friend. Strong Son of God! Immortal Love! We have not seen thy face; but we can trust thy power, and rest upon thy love. Thy very birth brings hope; but as for thy death, when thou didst bear our sins in thine own body on the tree, this is the fulfillment of all our desires, in the cancelling of sin, the removal of wrath, and the securing of eternal life. Yes, Jesus is God with us.

THREE IN AUTHORITY

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all. (2 Cor 13:14)

In the fourth century a man named Arius taught that Christ was not equal with the Father, nor was Christ eternal. He taught that Christ was of a different substance than the Father and was in fact a created being. A great controversy erupted in the church, particularly between Arius and Athanasius. Athanasius taught that Christ was of the same substance of the Father and therefore equal with the Father and eternal. The church eventually recognized that Athanasius taught the orthodox, biblical view.

The mention of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit together is important in recognizing their equality as persons and in authority. For example, Jesus instructed the apostles to "make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" (Matt 28:19). Since some cults deny the personality of the Holy Spirit, that statement would then indicate that we baptize disciples in the name of two persons and one thing! Some cults also deny the deity of the Son. But if that were true, then Jesus would be commanding His followers to baptize their converts in the name of one who is superior and two who are inferior. That, too, is unlikely.

Even stronger is the benediction: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all (2 Cor 13:14). Grace, love, and communion come from the three persons of the Trinity. Surely those words demand the equality of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Other statements indicate that the Son and Holy Spirit are equal in authority to the Father. For example, the Son is to be worshiped just as the Father (John 5:23)—and Christ willingly received worship (Matt 14:33). Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit can never be forgiven, indicating the Spirit's authority and importance (Matt 12:31).

The Trinity multiplies God's blessing to us: grace from Christ, love from the Father, and fellowship with the Holy Spirit.

LESSON: Three persons exist within the Godhead, who are equal in authority, power, and honor.

John 15:26

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father. How brightly are Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-in their distinct Personality, brought here before us! While the 'procession' of the Holy Spirit, as it is called, was by the whole ancient Church founded on this statement regarding Him, that He proceedeth from the Father and the Son:

 

 

MONOTHEISM

Worship of one supreme God, an important characteristic of the worship system of the Hebrew people. One of the central teachings in the Old Testament is Deut 6:4: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" Against the idolatry of surrounding nations with their many gods (polytheism), God revealed this essential aspect of His nature to Israel in the Old Testament period. The Lord is one God.

In the New Testament God further revealed that He is One in Three and that His essential being is triune. God is the triune family of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, united in will, purpose, holiness, and love. Accordingly, Christianity is both monotheistic and trinitarian.

Jesus' oneness with the Father is explicitly claimed in the fourth gospel: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1). Jesus Himself consciously laid claim to His oneness with the Father (John 5:17-24). This angered His opponents so much that they sought to kill Him (John 5:18). The absolute unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is expressed throughout the New Testament (John 14:16; 16:13-15).

I could go on and on but will stop

I'm so glad Jesus Died for me.

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