Discuss Kid's answer to: Gay are born that way?

Homosexuality is a sin like all other sins, it can be forgiven through repentance to God in the name of Jesus Christ.  However, God felt that this was a serious sin among other sins, for God put a death penalty behind it:

Lev 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.  (KJV)

Lev 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.  (KJV)

Obviously our society does not execute Gays and Lesbians, and we are supposed to live by the laws of our land {Titus 3:1, 1st Pet 2:13-16}.  Homosexuality is also spoken against in the New Testament but there is no death penalty mentioned.  I only state that because there are 'unbalanced' people who would read something into that.  No one could be condemned under God's law without a trial: "One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established." {Deut 19:15} , and we don't try Homosexuals in our day so don't anyone think that I am advocating death penalties for Gays.  In fact, in the Old Testament the sin of adultery also carries a death sentence, as does idolatry...  Enough said about that.  God will do the judging and He will administer punish in a number of ways.

Rom 1:26-28
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature :
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly , and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient  (KJV)

1 Tim 1:8-11
8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind , for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.  (KJV)

1 Cor 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate , nor abusers of themselves with mankind ,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.  (KJV)

Sin is sin, you must repent of every sin you commit or you will be 'charged' with it on Judgment Day.  But a Homosexual who has perverted sex with another of his/her gender is no more or less in jeopardy of going to Hell than I would be if I went over to my neighbors house and committed adultery with his wife - we would both be in danger of the Judgment!  But then if after the sin was committed, myself and the person who had engaged in prohibited gay sex both were to repent to God for our sins and try harder not to commit them again, then that particular one incident of sin would be forgiven by the Blood of the Lamb Jesus Christ for both of us (if we are Christian believers).

What if we do it again?  Well we better be trying not to, for God is not one to be 'toyed with,' but He understands the weakness of mankind.  repentance means to have a change of heart, to understand that what was done was wrong, and to have a mind to try to change.  You cannot simply just go through the motions of 'repenting' to cover your b*tt, you must be sincere;  And no, you don't need a Priest to repent with, you repent to God in personal heartfelt prayer (simple words from your heart to your Heavenly Father), not to some man out loud, who may be worse off than you!  Along with repentance, ask God for the strength to overcome the urge to participate in whatever thing you are having trouble with, God will help you. 

Matt 11:25-30
25 At that time Jesus answered and said , I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.  KJV)

Heb 13:5-6
5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee .
6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. KJV)

But sin and salvation are two separate things.  Salvation is a gift of Grace by God to us through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.  We must believe that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God, who died on the cross, rose again the third day, and is seated at the right hand of God.  Do that and you have fulfilled the 'minimum requirements' (for lack of a better term) for salvation:

John 3:15-21
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.  (KJV)

But there are rewards in Heaven that last an eternity "And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints." {Rev 19:8} , these rewards are for those who please God.  Pray to God to help you with your weaknesses, He will!  But there is something far worse and evil indeed going on with the 'Gay issue' than the Gays going about their disobedience.  There are supposed men of God, preachers/priests that are telling Gays that what they are doing is Ok with God now.  

These false teachers/preachers will bear the sins along with those that they have mislead.  There will be far more false teachers who lie about God's Word in Hell than there will be those deceived by them!  But God be the Judge, and thank God for that, for if man were our Judge none of us would have a chance.

Jer 23:19-27
19 Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked.
20 The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.
21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.
23 Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?
24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.
25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.
26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.  KJV)

I'll close this with an excerpt from elsewhere on this site along with a picture of a Priestess preaching at the foot of the Altar to little children wearing the 'Gay Pride' colored scarf over her priest robes - how nice.  Oh well, I guess 'anything for a buck' in the churches now-a-days - sad!

Alternative lifestyles, Homosexuality, and Lesbianism

        Its against God's law, even though satan's false teachers/preachers whom have infiltrated God's Ministries say it's a-okay.  And no this is not an attempt to 'gay bash' anyone, not anymore than we would 'adulterer bash,' or 'thief bash' anyone.  We do not have the power nor the right to judge anyone.  But they also do not have the power nor the right to say that sin is not sin.  And we are to discern the right from the wrong, and it is not passing judgment on someone to observe that they go against what God tells us in His holy written Word, the Bible, because the next thing you know they will be having our children doing it until the wrong becomes right and the right becomes 'ignorance' or 'prejudice.'  How far are we really from that now?  

Isa 29:16
16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?  (KJV)

        In our churches today, over-tolerance is diluting the Word of God and allowing satan's false religions to creep into Christianity. Just one example of this is that instead of Christians refraining from perversion, the so-called false preachers are creating entire congregations for homosexuals embracing the activities that God commanded that should not be done. They even dare to raise the standard (flag) of 'gay-pride' in the house of God 

        It is by tactics like these that satan will so blur the lines between good and evil, right and wrong, true and false, that God's truth will be lost to a deceived world.  It is that pitifully deceived world that will be led into the great apostasy of worshipping the false christ (antichrist) thinking him to be the True Messiah.  

        And they dare not object for fear of being 'Politically Incorrect,' they just trudge through their useless (to God) lives with an 'anything goes' tolerant attitude that will allow satan to have his way with God's children.  

        The saddest and most revolting fact of all is that the Christian has been brainwashed into thinking that 'tolerance' is what God wants from His people;  Or they have been scarred out of making a stand, either way they are of no use to God in these troublous times, they are part of the problem.  

        'Tolerance' simply means that you agree not to stand against anything no matter how wrong or perverted it is.  God knew: 

Rev 3:15-17
15    I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 
16    So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 
17    Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked.  (KJV)

Homosexuality is a sin, but like any sin you commit, God can forgive you of it through the Blood of Christ if you ask and believe upon Him.  Honest and heartfelt prayer to our Heavenly Father will help you overcome those urges, just as with any self destructive urges like adultery, alcoholism, pornography, drug addiction, obesity....