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That depends on which radio talk you prefer, there are hate mongers all over the "conservative" radio talk shows, like Limbaugh and Hannity, who only aim is to spread more fear that we, as a people, wear like a badge of honour.

About the "non-coverage" of the tea parties as stated in this blog by "InsaneLady", anybody who says that the Supreme Court of the unites States is comprised by communists and that we live in a dictatorship and other incredibly sick garbage, deserve as much credit as Bush saying that Irak had WMD's.

All of these embittered and hateful characters have nothing in mind but to get revenge for their loss in November, whatever the cost, and in the process they invent and create the hell in which they live. And I hope they live in that hell for a long time to come, because they are not contributing to their country in any way, shape or form. The worst part is that in spite of all the patriotic B.S. they spout, they are just cowards, unable to suck up their loss and do something constructive for the country they so vociferously claim to love. They prefer to scream about Obama and his suppossed status as the Messiah, which is a label created by them and not by the "liberals", and talk about imminent takeover of the U.S. by foreign powers. Their delirium knows no bounds. All of this in a fedding frenzy of resentment and frustration for their own limited and narrow view of the world, of which they know nothing.

I remember someone saying: "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." They should wear that motto on their forheads.

I am having a real problem with the "News Media" what are they telling the American people? I feel the news papers, the local, and cable channels are like Politicians for pete sakes. What has happend to this country? MSNBC reports their point of view, and change the channel to CNN and they are reporting on the same issue but its another point of view! What happend to reporting the FACTS? We the People have a right to form our own opnion don't we anymore? Does anyone else see this the same way I do? Where are we going with this crappy news reports who is telling the truth? 

donderro, I sgree with u on the 'last of days' theory. U said u were a Christian. What is ur religion? What Bible do u use? I'm a Baptist, and i use KJV, but i'm corious as 2 what u believe. I think u got the right idea about what's going on these days. I'v seen it forming 4 years.

"All of these embittered and hateful characters have nothing in mind but to get revenge for their loss in November" No, it's our loss of rights that we r worried about! Did u hear about the memo being given 2 every police station in America? It says any anti-obortionist, or any 1 that disagrees with the government is considered a 'radical' and a 'TERERIST'! Obama wont put that label on the men that blew up the twin towers, but they have the nerve 2 put in on American ppl! Right on the top of the document it said, 'do not give press'. They didn't want the news 2 get it cause they knew it was wrong! They r taking away our right 2 speak freely; our right to protest! U r blind if u can't c it! But u will when this country goes down the tiolet cause of the tax cheats, and the Obama worshipers in Washington.

Dawgman,

I just cut on the tube, and caught the blip where Holder just released the information on Bush/Legal opinions of what constituted torture. You have most likely, or will shortly see the report. You are a smart guy and I think you will see where I am going with this.

What is the next thing on the agenda. The massive budget right. Classic misdirection again. Except this time they have shot a hole in the foundation of the security of this nation. Do you understand what I am saying? This thing has a potential to start ripping the threads of the sovereignty of our nation. Mark my word, and I KNOW this is what they want. Create the DIVIDE so thou can conquer.

I just finished a book Jane Mayer called THE DARK SIDE. It is 400 pages of the Bush/Cheney quote unquote war crimes. Stick with me hear Dawg. After reading this entire book, the bottom line is this. Out of all the prisoners taken, there were only three wrongful arrests. Out of all the terrorists that were arrested there have been two of these guys who died in prison. This is LESS than the national average in the U. S. jail system. However, with this being said, the information that is being brought forth, is like a blue print from this book.

You are a smart guy. What do you know about how Americans were, or are being treated when captured??? Let me know, and I will continue this discourse.

Trapper

Trapper says; What do you know about how Americans were, or are being treated when captured???    

There is absolutely No comparison to the Gitmo Prisoners being held.

Prisoners of terror: Americans held captive in Tripoli, Tehran and Baghdad: on three major occasions--1803, 1979 and 1991--uniformed Americans were taken hostage by Muslim regimes. How does their captivity compare to that of al Qaeda terrorists being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2002?  

Just how bad are America's radical Islamic enemies treated when captured and interred during the war on terrorism? History shows that the nearly 600 al Qaeda and Taliban detainees held at Camp Delta at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base on Cuba could have it much worse, especially in their own countries of origin. 

Not only do they receive a mattress and personal hygiene items, they also get a Koran (the sacred book of Islam), a prayer cap and three meals a day prepared in accordance with their beliefs. Signs inside the camp and arrows painted in their cells point to Mecca so they know which way to face during their five-times-a-day prayers.

Detainees also can talk with a Muslim chaplain, speak with Red Cross workers, exercise, receive and send mail and talk with other inmates. In short, they aren't exactly suffering. 

But critics can't resist carping. The New York Times stated in an April 23 editorial that the Bush Administration is "weakening" the Geneva Convention in its handling of detainees. It stated that the Administration's actions are endangering "the rights of American soldiers captured in battle." 

What an oddly misinformed contention. Did the Times overlook the treatment of Navy SEAL Petty Officer 1st Class Neil Roberts, the only uniformed American captured so far by al Qaeda in the war on terrorism? His captivity lasted only a matter of minutes, and it's highly doubtful that he received religious considerations or was allowed to write a letter home. 

Roberts was summarily executed on March 4, about a half hour after falling out of a helicopter on a snowy Afghanistan mountaintop.  His fate was recorded by a camera aboard an unmanned recon plane. 

"The image was fuzzy, but we believe it showed three al Qaeda had captured Roberts and were taking him away around to the south side of [the mountaintop] and disappearing into a tree line," said Army Maj. Gen. Franklin L. Hagenbeck. "That was 15 to 20 minutes before the first rescue team arrived." 

After an autopsy, the Special Operations Command determined Roberts was shot at close range. 

`Worse Than Anything in the United States' 

So in the latest clash between Islamic militants and the United States, the lone American POW was murdered while nearly 600 detained Muslims reside on a Caribbean island at U.S. taxpayers' expense. Historically, however, how have Americans captured by Muslim regimes been treated by their captors? 

Between 1785 and 1815, 700 Americans captured from 35 U.S. ships were held captive by the four piratical states of North Africa's Barbary Coast. So-called "Christian dogs" were used as slaves who suffered severe punishments for minor infractions.  

"A slave who spoke disrespectfully to a Muslim could be roasted alive, crucified or impaled (a stake driven through the anus until it came out at the back of the neck)," Max Boot wrote in The Savage Wars of Peace. 

On Oct. 31, 1803, during the Barbary wars (1801-05 and 1815), the 307-man crew of the U.S. Navy frigate Philadelphia was captured by Tripoli (today the capital of Libya) after the ship became grounded on a reef in the Mediterranean Sea off the North African country's coast.

"The Americans marched in a torchlit procession through jeering crowds that spat at them along the way," A.B.C. Whipple wrote in To the Shores of Tripoli: The Birth of the U.S. Navy and Marines. 

During their 20-month imprisonment, the crew's enlisted men became virtual slaves of the nation's Ottoman (Turkish)-backed ruler, Bashaw Yusuf Karamanli. They were forced to lug water, work in shipyards, build fortifications, cook for their captors and haul provisions. 

"Each morning [the enlisted men] were led to work by foremen who seemed to enjoy beating them," Whipple wrote. "The prisoners worked without food from dawn to noon, when they were given a few minutes in which to eat a piece of black bread dipped in olive oil." 

After work, they were herded back to a 50-foot by 20-foot warehouse that served as their prison, which "was worse than anything in the United States," according to Whipple. The room was hardly large enough for the prisoners to lie down on the dirt floor at night. 

"We had nothing to keep us from the cold, damp earth, but a thin, tattered sailcloth," one prisoner recalled. "The floor of the prison was very uneven and planted with hard pebbles. We had nothing but a shirt to soften our beds and nothing but the ground for a pillow." 

One sailor called the dungeon "black and dreary," which was "more fit to be the abode of demons than of mortals." 

When the prisoners were released in June 1805--after the United States paid a $60,000 ransom--11 were missing. Six had died in captivity, while five others had "turned Turk," according to Boot.

They had professed to be Islamic converts to get supposedly better treatment by the Tripolitans. When Karamanli gave the five the chance to renounce their new religion and join their shipmates, only one chose to remain in Tripoli. Karamanli, insulted by the other four men's phony conversion, had them marched away. 

"We had a glimpse of them as they passed our prison," remembered a Marine private, "and could see horror and despair depicted in their countenances." 

The Americans did not protest, and the four were never heard from again. 

As Robert J. Allison wrote in The Crescent Obscured, "Captivity in the Muslim world was thus a test for the character of the Americans who endured it." 

Battling `the Shah's Revenge' 

Nearly 175 years later, Muslim radicals once again held Americans against their will. On Nov. 4, 1979, Islamic militants attacked the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, Iran, and took 66 Americans hostage (13 were released later in the month and one was released on July 11, 1980, because of serious illness). Among those held were 13 Marine security guards and at least 12 military attaches. Confinement for 52 hostages lasted 444 days. 

Their Iranian captors (mostly male and in their 20s and early 30s) had little experience with prisoners. 

"These students were typical Persian males," said former Army attache Col. Leland Holland. "From the time they were babies, they had been waited on hand and foot. They couldn't boil water without screwing it up." 

Obtaining edible food was a constant struggle, with many hostages battling dysentery--"the Shah's Revenge." 

"I remember sometimes there would be worms in our food," said then-Air Force Capt. Paul Needham. "There were these little white things crawling around in it. We'd just brush them off and go ahead and eat."

Those suspected of being CIA agents fared even worse. Threatened with torture and execution, physical abuse often accompanied interrogation. 

"I'd been knocked off my stool and kicked so many times that I was pretty sure I had some serious internal injuries," said ex-Army attache Col. Charles Scott. "They got out their rubber hose and beat on me with that, and they continued to knock me off the stool and kick me around until I thought I had a hernia." 

The hostages were separated into small groups and not allowed to communicate. They received no news or contact from the outside world. Letters to and from home were rarely delivered. After the failed rescue mission Operation Eagle Claw in April 1980, the hostages were dispersed widely around the country and moved often. 

"We were tied up for the next two months," said onetime Marine security guard Cpl. Steve Kirtley. "Our shoes were taken away and we were forbidden to speak to one another. After a time, I and two others were taken in a bus to Isfahan where we were held for months. The two others got sick and were moved. I got sick, too, but I recovered and was kept there." 

CIA agent William J. Daugherty, who spent 425 days of his captivity in solitary confinement, remembers his main interrogator, Hossein Sheik-ol-Eslam, as "a mid-thirties, bearded Khomeini loyalist who had previously studied at the University of California-Berkeley, which was appropriate, I thought, given that institution's reputation." (Berkeley is well-known for its radical left-wing politics.) 

In his book In the Shadow of the Ayatollah, Daugherty noted that Hossein served as Iran's deputy foreign minister in the mid-'80s and "caused the deaths of Americans" by playing a major role in Iranian-sponsored terrorism. By 2001, Hossein was Iran's ambassador to Syria. 

U.S. POWs are `Fair Game' 

During the 1991 Persian Gulf War, U.S. POWs were treated even worse by their Iraqi captors. According to their spokesman, "The POWs suffered not only unspeakable and prolonged physical pain, but also intense and prolonged mental anguish and harm." 

It was so bad that in April 2002, 17 of the 22 POWs took the unprecedented step of suing Saddam Hussein. George C. Wilson in an article for the National Journal wrote that the POWs were "fair game" in captivity: 

"Bedouins, villagers and Iraqi soldiers--at least once to the tune of the music on their truck radio--all beat on the captives, with none of the restraint displayed by the professional torturers in North Vietnam." 

Navy Cmdr. Lawrence Slade, shot down Jan. 22, 1991, was beaten so viciously that "his body was completely blue, as if he had been dipped in indigo dye." His weight dropped from 180 pounds to 135 pounds while in captivity. 

Marine Capt. Russell Sanborn, shot down Feb. 9, 1991, was beaten so hard with a rubber hose that his teeth were loosened and his eardrums ruptured. 

Marine Lt. Col. Clifford Acree, shot down over Kuwait on Jan. 18, 1991, described the food he was given as "a starvation diet of one bowl of broth per day, sometimes with a piece of small, thin bread." He said he was forced to eat scabs off his body to reduce his intense hunger. 

Air Force Col. Jeffrey Tice recalled a sadistic device he dubbed "the Talk-man." Iraqi guards tied one end of a wire to his ear and the other end to a car battery. They "shocked him to the point that every muscle in his body contracted at once," according to the lawsuit. 

Compare this treatment with that of al Qaeda and Taliban detainees at Guantanamo, where respect for their human rights exceeds anything offered U.S. POWs held by militant Muslims. 

The Times of London wrote that interrogations there have become "a politically correct farce" with prisoners mocking and threatening guards and throwing water at them. 

Judging from America's historical experience, it's frightening to imagine what a U.S. POW's punishment would be for similar behavior under a hostile Muslim regime.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-26034488_ITM

And meanwhile, at Gitmo....

Miss Universe Visits, Blogs Guantanamo: 'A Loooot Of Fun!'

The current 'Miss Universe' Dayana Mendoza (formerly Miss Venezuela) and 'Miss America' Crystal Stewart visited US troops stationed in Guantanamo Bay on March 20th, the New York Times reports. Here's Mendoza's account of the visit from her pageant blog last Friday. She says the trip "was a loooot of fun!"

This week, Guantánamo!!! It was an incredible experience...All the guys from the Army were amazing with us. We visited the Detainees camps and we saw the jails, where they shower, how the recreate themselves with movies, classes of art, books. It was very interesting. We took a ride with the Marines around the land to see the division of Gitmo and Cuba while they were informed us with a little bit of history.

The water in Guantánamo Bay is soooo beautiful! It was unbelievable, we were able to enjoy it for at least an hour. We went to the glass beach, and realized the name of it comes from the little pieces of broken glass from hundred of years ago. It is pretty to see all the colors shining with the sun. That day we met a beautiful lady named Rebeca who does wonders with the glasses from the beach. She creates jewelry with it and of course I bought a necklace from her that will remind me of Guantánamo Bay :)

I didn't want to leave, it was such a relaxing place, so calm and beautiful.

Subject: $20,000,000 (MILLION) to bring hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to USA I checked this out using the "Federal Register" thru "GOOGLE" it says this is true about the $20 M -don't know about the other info - ?? R / Bob ' hyper link at bottom of page' Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 Subject: HIDDEN AGENDA ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So how much of the “Hope and Change” can we afford ************* Obama funds $20M tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas Refugees to the USA This is the news that didn't make the headlines... By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in migration assistance to the Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza . The "presidential determination" which allows hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on February 4. Few on Capitol Hill took note that the order provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006. A review of Barack Obama's most recent actions since he was inaugurated a little more than two weeks ago: His first call to any head of state as president was to Mahmoud Abbas, leader of Fatah party in the Palestinian territory. His first one-on-one interview with any news organization was with Al Arabia television. He ordered Guantanamo Bay closed and all military trials of detainees halted. He ordered all overseas CIA interrogation centers closed. He withdrew all charges against the masterminds behind the USS Cole and 9/11. Now we learn that he is allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refuges to move to and live in the US at American taxpayer expense. To verify for yourself: www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488 RE: Obama Signs Presidential Determination Allowing Palestinians Loyal to Hamas to Resettle in US ww.wizbangblog.com ^ | Feb 7,2009

They had coverage in the evening but I thought it would be on all the stations during the day, I was disappointed because I wanted to see what was going on downtown Chicago and in NY, those were not shown at all. a 2 min. clip last night of chicago. 

My daughter told me she saw some shows that were showing tea parties everywhere and it was on most of the stations all day. She is in NY. Glen Beck had a good show with the protestors in Texas. The coverage here was really bad.