Or is it a little more complex than the two choices given?
The ONLY way to heaven is through Jesus. Period. If you are a satanist, which is ANYONE who does not believe every letter and every syllable of the Christian Bible (KJV 1611), then you are going to hell. For example, ALL newborn babies that die go straight to hell because they did not believe.
If you are not a Christian, then you are satanist. (Matt 12:30) All atheists are satanists. All Catholics are satanists. All Methodists are satanists. All modern Presbyterians are satanists. All Russian Orthodox are satanists. All Greek Orthodox are satanists. All Lutherans of the Missouri synod are satanist. WELS Lutherans might be Christians. All mormons are satanists. Absolutely anyone else who rejects the truth of the KJV 1611 Bible is a satanist. They all deserve hell for their satanism and that's where they will go.
To answer this question from a more technical Christian perspective we must look at the Calvinist TULIP that effectively surmises the Biblical teaching on the subject:
Total Depravity=any natural man is completely and totally depraved, unable to do anything good on his own. From what I see, this is you!
Unconditional Election=the Lord choses his elect, those who will be given the grace to truly accept Him without any preconditions, such as works, from the Elect.
Limited Atonement=the Lord's sacrifice was sufficient to save all, but efficient ONLY to save the elect. All the others go to Hell!
Irresistible Grace=Saints (the Elect) cannot resist the Lord's call to salvation. Compare that to satanists who "struggle" with their "faith"!
Perseverance of Saints=when the Elect get Saved, they will never abandon their faith.
Hope this makes things clear for you.
PS Please be aware that RocMike3 is a vile, Jesus-hating satanist, who also posts as stressed, Hairy Biker, biker to believe, garza, southern, Chaplain John, and several others.
@Reverend Cooper: Hi and thank you for your response, and Happy Holidays!!
"All atheists are satanists."
I hope you realize and understand that atheists don't believe in Satan either. How can an atheist worship a being that doesn't exist? I'm thinking that you believe that atheists send themselves there.
"For example, ALL newborn babies that die go straight to hell because they did not believe."
That's just terrible. I'm sorry, but that statement is one of the sickest things I've ever read anyone write period. You basically just said that newborns that die deserve hell because they didn't believe. How can they believe? How can they even understand? They can't even speak for themselves. The vast majority of Christians would vehemently disagree with you on this. I disagree with you 100% with just the sole idea of a newborn child being tortured forever for not believing because they just died too young. Would you say that the child sent themselves to hell for dying to young?
Anyone who doesn't read the "KJV 1611 Bible" is a "Satanist"? So you are telling me that the KJV from the year 1611 is the only version of the bible that is worth reading? You are also telling me from your statement, "All Catholics are satanists. All Methodists are satanists. All modern Presbyterians are satanists. All Russian Orthodox are satanists. All Greek Orthodox are satanists. All Lutherans of the Missouri synod are satanist." that all of those denominations (along with the other 10,000+ of Christianity) are wrong, and you have the correct denomination?
"Total Depravity=any natural man is completely and totally depraved, unable to do anything good on his own. From what I see, this is you!"
Is that right. You must know a lot about me since the only information I've given out is I am an atheist and I used to be a Christian. What you have formulated is your idea of me, and it is not the truth. I'm not sure if the latter matters to you all that much in this case.
"PS Please be aware that RocMike3 is a vile, Jesus-hating satanist, who also posts as stressed, Hairy Biker, biker to believe, garza, southern, Chaplain John, and several others."
I'll hold you to the same standards I have with him. Prove it. Demonstrate that Rocmike3 is "Stressed", "Hairy Biker", "biker to believe", "garza", "southern", and "Chaplain John". Otherwise you are just doing what he is doing to me. I would think (I certainly hope) that Rockmike3 would want you to prove it to him, as I want him to do to me.
@Lido: Hello again, and Happy Holidays!!! :)
Holidays? I am not aware of any Christian holidays coming up any time soon.
Furthermore, there is little point in me addressing your remarks because it is clear that you are a committed satanist, and has been one all your life. Read again about Perseverance of Saints. You were never a real Christian, just one in the name only. Since you are not a Christian, you are a satanist. It doesn't matter whether you believe in satan. If you are not a Christian, you are serving satan just the same as the cretins that draw pentagrams and kill animals for satanic rituals.
Inquisitor said: "you are also telling me from your statement, that all of those denominations (along with the other 10,000+ of Christianity) are wrong, and you have the correct denomination?"
I do not have a denomination. I am a true Bible-believing Christian. I am correct because I follow the Christian Bible. False Christians are all satanists because they do not believe and follow the Christian Bible. It is this simple--you either believe or you go to hell.
Hope this addresses your ignorant statements. Some additional links for your education (not for your comments, we don't need any more satanism in Christian topics of interest):
@Reverend Cooper: "I am correct because I follow the Christian Bible." I've heard/read that 1,000s of times from many Christians of every denomination and non-denomination. Nothing new.
"It is this simple--you either believe or you go to hell."
It is not acceptable to have a religion where the alternative to faith is punishment — that's how you train dogs, not develop people. ~ Deng Ming-Dao
That's not even how you train dogs.
"Indeed, the unborn, the babies, little children, retards, and any other incapable of accepting the Lord do go to Hell."
That's disgusting. It's amazing what people can justify and believe when God and the bible are behind their justifications.
You are sick and I'm done acknowledging you.
Good bye and have a nice life.
It is genuinely kind of you to put these "pearls" of wisdom in front of the satanist. We can only hope that the reason he is here is because of the Irresistible Grace that calls him to engage the true Christians and come to the Lord.
Odd, is it not, for a multiple-poster to stage a discreditable "argument" with himself, always angling to a didactic conclusion that is so obvious that it hurts.
If that is how far gone you have gone from reality, then may God have mercy on you -- because no one else will.