Discuss KakSak's answer to: Astrology and your health condition?

Kaksak, no one said that you were God.  You seem intent on misdirecting everyone with your cynicism, but you never have anything positive to say.  When you ran out of answers, it was for a good reason.  You should be asking yourself why everyone else can see that, and you cannot.

How can I say something positive about Astrology when it's not real? How should you give someone advice on something which you know does not exist, and thus, should you do so, you'd purposely lead them on a path which you knew from the start was wrong.

Here you have people asking how Astrology relates to health problems! Do you honestly want to lead them on even further, and let them believe that their health is influenced by anything other than their environment, due to what's IN the environment? Would you honestly lead them to believe that planets and stars influences their health, personality and anything else for that matter?

You look at my answers, and tell me I'm wrong, yet you'd purposely lead someone astray.

I'm sorry, but YOU'RE the one who should be ashamed!

Kaksak, if you could open your mind to something other than self-destructiveness and bigotry, you could see the wisdom that has made wise people happy.  As long as you live a lie and practice the errors that you practice, you will remain utterly miserable.

That comes from incorrect belief, incorrect living, incorrect religion, and incorrect thought.  If as you say, you understand everything, then why can you not understand how we saw through your loaded questions?

Atheism is completely in error. 

Why do you, and so many others (I've been told that it's the same person with many accounts), assume that atheists, and those who do not believe in things that have absolutely no evidence pointing to it being true, are miserable and unhappy?

Do you have any idea how happy I am with what I believe, and how the universe looks to me? A universe without a God, and without 'mystical events' is really not as dull and boring as you make it out to be. Let me explain - and if you're not interested in how I see this, just ignore the following paragraph and continue with the one thereafter. 

It all started with the Big Bang (what came before that I don't know, that's up for speculation), with the primordial soup, with temperatures so high it's unimaginable. After a looong time, things cooled down, and you probably know the rest. Gravity kicked in, nebulae formed, then stars and then star clusters. Stars died in magnificent explosions, blasting out the heavy elements that formed in it's core, eventually leading to the forming of planets around other stars. Eventually life formed on Earth, from the same stuff that was within the stars. Thus, the universe itself, formed consciousness in us, with the universe now peering back at itself and it's beginning, trying to understand it's own origin. I mean, how can you be unhappy, and miserable while being part of something so wonderful?

How much do you really know about atheists, and people looking for facts rather than nice tales? To me it appears as if you've painted this picture in your mind, of them having a hole within themselves where religion and other similarly 'spiritual' things, without actually investigating it yourself, which would be an error on your part. 

You say I need to have an open mind, yet you fail to define this more clearly. Does that mean that I need to give everything a chance, instead of just dismissing it?

I already do. I was religious. I did believe in astrology, and when I was much younger, I believed in Santa and the Easter bunny too. But I no longer believe in the Easter bunny, since there's no evidence that points to it's existence. I no longer believe in Santa either, since there's no evidence that supports his existence. I no longer believe in Astrology, since there's no evidence supporting it's credibility either, just like I don't believe in fortune telling (psychics). You might get something right eventually, but that's simply due to it being a mathematical certainty, that eventually you will. It's all about odds. But can you show me the proof, the undeniable proof that astrology is real, and effective? 

No you can't, since if you could, EVERYONE would have believed in it. NO ONE would have doubted it. The results would have spoken for itself. We would have all been prepared for what's to come, there would be no surprises and science would have taken a back-seat.

There's a difference between keeping an open mind, and being ignorant, simply ignoring the evidence, or the lack thereof. 

You go through life, attributing so many wonderful things to deities, and events that's got NOTHING to do with it, missing the entire story unravelling before you. You are part of something big, but it's not a master plan, in fact, it's not a plan at all. But it's one heck of a story to be in, yet you close your eyes, follow a belief that has absolutely no evidence supporting it, and then calling other people ignorant, miserable, and depressing.

If I tell you something strange right now, you'd want some proof that what I'm telling you is in fact true, yet you do not apply the same logic with things like religion, nor astrology.

Why is that, if I may ask?

The double standards and bigotry of atheists has always been their worst embarrassment.  That is why kakSak/Physicalist has no friends at all and is the scorn of AOL Answers.

Get over it, Physicalist.  You allowed bigots and liars to brainwash you into fanatical cult atheism and that ruined your life -- and the lives of a lot of other people I care about.  If you meddlesome and angry old bigots will not mind your own business, then perhaps a few more restraining orders on your surly ilk will be necessary. 

I would hope that you had the discipline not to need a court order compelling you to mind your own business, but so far you lack any discipline whatever.  You would have washed out of recruit training as a disciplinary failure.  That is clearly a question of moral character.  Yours, sad to say, is a bit short of minimum.

That is because there is no bigot angrier or worse than an atheist.  And if you are half the Marine that you claim to be, then tell it to the Marines.

I happen to be one.

Marine this, and marine that - get over yourself!

For someone proclaiming to be a man of faith, and who's religious, you sure harbor a lot of hate towards atheists. It's this same time of attitude that lead to your fellow 'cult' members to burn people at the stake not so long ago, since Christians can't stand anyone who does not follow their way of thinking.

Atheists can be questioned about what they believe, and would welcome the discussion, whereas Christians see each question as a personal attack, and then resort to flinging insults to try and deflect.

The day that I can sit down with a religious person and have a decent discussion, without them needing to resort to such cheap tactics, is the day that pigs fly.