About Ol' Yeddar:
It really irks at time when I go to look for data to help answer a question. So, in order not to be hypocritical. I am an older male, retired. My truck is older, but I don't want to retire it just yet. It got four new ones within a year. Spiritual- fundamental Christian,Creationist. 5 Grown children.
Alas, poor Saturn. I knew it well.
O, LORD, it's hard to be Hubble.